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I have not worked on machine .it flashed the transmission light stopped moving ,I waited 20 seconds ,light went off then machine ran fine for a hour or so. Machine has 8000 hours on it. Runs great

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Hello,

You can use the service switches (if equipped) located under a secured panel beneath the operator's right armrest. These switches are intended to be used by service personnel only. The switches connect to the Caterpillar Monitoring System. The Caterpillar Monitoring System then communicates with the hydrostatic transmission ECM. On this machine, a separate service tool is not required to perform diagnostic procedures.

However, you will not be able to clear any active codes or reset any computer-related issues with the switches. Active codes must be repaired before the code can be cleared.

Clearing old codes will also make it difficult to follow progressive problems. If you don't keep a record of the logged codes, future repairs will require waiting for the problem to repeat again for the service technician to see what is happening.

If you are seeing a filter restriction light, or any other warning light, the service switches will not reset them either.

The best way to proceed is to record the codes and post them here so we can determine what is wrong.

If you prefer to make the repairs yourself. a copy of the Troubleshooting manual (part # RENR8156) can show you all the codes and how to clear them and even some diagnostic testing and calibrating.

If you want to try recording and clearing the codes, here is the steps you asked for.

Procedure

Use the following procedure to troubleshoot the diagnostic code information. Locate the service switches under a secured panel beneath the operator's right armrest.

  1. Place the Caterpillar Monitoring System in service mode. Press and hold the "SERVICE" switch and the "CLEAR" switch. Release the switches while the mode number "-3-" is shown on the display. This will place the system in service mode.

    Note: The diagnostic scrolling mode may be entered in order to see the diagnostic codes, but the diagnostic codes can be easily diagnosed with the service mode. The service mode allows the diagnostic codes to be placed on hold for further investigation. The service mode also allows the diagnostic codes to be cleared when the problem has been fixed.

  2. A diagnostic code is shown and a diagnostic code is on hold at this time. The display toggles between showing MID (9) and CID (11) and FMI (12). When no diagnostic codes are present and the service mode is selected, screen (7) shows "---".

     

  3. In order to view all the diagnostic codes, scroll through the diagnostic codes. In order to scroll through the diagnostic codes, press and hold the SERVICE switch. The display momentarily shows MID (9), CID (11) and FMI (12) for each diagnostic code. The word "End" is shown after the last diagnostic code in the list.

    Note: The following procedures may cause some new diagnostic codes to be logged. Therefore, record all diagnostic codes before you perform any procedures. As each procedure is completed, clear the diagnostic codes that were caused by the procedure.

  4. Place the desired diagnostic code on hold. In order to place the diagnostic code on hold, release the "SERVICE" switch while the desired diagnostic code is shown.

     

  5. The MID determines the electronic control system that is generating the diagnostic code. If the MID is not "079", see Electrical System Schematic, "Module Identifier (MID) Table" of the machine that is being serviced. Use the table in order to determine the electronic control that has detected the problem. Then see the service manual module for that electronic control. The MID for the Caterpillar Monitoring System is "030". If the MID is "079", use this Service Manual to troubleshoot the problem that generated the diagnostic code.

     

  6. Observe the diagnostic code indicator (10).

    • If diagnostic code indicator (10) shows "SERV CODE", then the problem that caused the diagnostic code that is shown is currently present.

       

    • If diagnostic code indicator (10) is OFF, then the problem that caused the diagnostic code that is shown is not present at this time.

     

  7. See the corresponding test in order to troubleshoot the diagnostic code with the same CID and the same FMI. Use the Service Manual for the Electronic Control Module (ECM) that is generating the diagnostic code.

     

  8. After a diagnostic code is corrected, clear the diagnostic code. Before the diagnostic code is cleared, ensure that all harness connectors have been reconnected and ensure that all wire insulation that has been punctured has been repaired. In order to clear the diagnostic code, press the "CLEAR" switch while the diagnostic code is on hold. After the diagnostic code is cleared, the display advances to the next available diagnostic code.

     

  9. Repeat Steps 2 through 8 for the remaining diagnostic codes. Return to the normal mode when you are finished. Press and hold the "SERVICE" switch and "CLEAR" switch. Release the switches when the display is showing normal information (hour meter).

Note: If the indicator for the transmission system is "FLASHING" and all diagnostic codes for a MID 079 have been cleared, the hydrostatic transmission ECM is bad or a problem exists with the Caterpillar Monitoring System. See Systems Operation, RENR2014, "Caterpillar Monitoring System" for more information before changing the hydrostatic transmission ECM.

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Service code 036 and 0444.05
Mechanic: catmastertech, Technician replied 2 years ago

Hello again,

That code is from the engine (MID 036) for the Start Relay (CID 0444) has an Open Circuit (FMI 05). See the details below for troubleshooting this problem.

CID 0444 FMI 05 Start Relay open circuit
SMCS - 1426-038
Conditions Which Generate This Code:
The Electronic Control Module (ECM) detects an open circuit in the circuit.
System Response:
The code is logged.
Possible Performance Effect:
The engine will not crank.
Start Relay Circuit - Test
SMCS - 1426-038
System Operation Description:

Use this procedure to troubleshoot any suspect problems with the circuit for the start relay.

This procedure covers the following diagnostic codes:

444-05 Start Relay open circuit

The Electronic Control Module (ECM) controls the starting motor through the start relay. If the machine is equipped with the Machine Security System (MSS), the ECM will request the serial number from the MSS when the ECM is powered up. The ECM compares the serial number to the serial number that is stored in the ECM. If the serial numbers do not match, fuel injection will be disabled.

The ECM sends the start signal to the start relay when all of the following conditions are met:

Confirmation of the serial numbers
Communication from MSS
Zero engine speed
Keyswitch in the START position
Note: After a failed attempt to start the engine, the key switch must be cycled to the OFF position prior to another attempt.

Once the engine speed reaches 600 rpm, the ECM will discontinue the signal to the start relay.

Test Step 1. Inspect the Electrical Connectors and the Wiring

Turn the keyswitch to the OFF position.

Thoroughly inspect the J1/P1 ECM connector, the connector for the keyswitch, the connector for the start relay, and any other connectors in the circuit.

(P1-10) Start relay

(P1-64) Keyswitch (start)

(P1-67) Start relay return

(P1-70) Keyswitch (run)

Perform a 45 N (10 lb) pull test on each of the wires in the connectors that are associated with the circuit.
Check the torque of the allen head screws for each of the ECM connectors. Refer to Troubleshooting, "Electrical Connectors - Inspect" for the correct torque values.
Check the harness and wiring for corrosion, for abrasion, and for pinch points back to the ECM.
Expected Result:

All connectors, pins, and sockets are completely inserted and coupled. The harness and wiring are free of corrosion, of abrasion, and of pinch points.

Results:

OK - The wiring and the connectors appear to be OK. Proceed to Test Step 2.
Not OK - There is a problem with the wiring and/or the connectors.
Repair: Repair the connectors and/or the wiring. Replace parts, if necessary. Ensure that all of the seals are properly in place and ensure that the connectors are completely coupled. Verify that the repair eliminates the problem.

STOP

Test Step 2. Check for Active Diagnostic Codes

Turn the key switch to the OFF position.
Connect Caterpillar Electronic Technician (ET) to the service tool connector. Refer to Troubleshooting, "Electronic Service Tools".
Turn the key switch to the ON position.
Observe the "Active Diagnostic" screen on Cat ET. Wait at least 30 seconds so that any codes may become active.
Turn the keyswitch to the START position.
Observe the "Active Diagnostic" screen on Cat ET. Wait at least 30 seconds so that any codes may become active.
Look for these codes:
444-05
444-06
Turn the keyswitch to the START position in order to verify whether the starting motor cranks the engine.
Turn the keyswitch to the OFF position.
Expected Result:

There are no active diagnostic codes and the engine cranks.

Results:

OK - No diagnostic codes are active and the starting motor cranks the engine.
Repair: The problem appears to be resolved. The problem is probably related to a faulty connection in the harness or at a connector. Carefully inspect the connectors and the wiring that is related to the start circuit. Ensure that all connections are tight and ensure that all wires are crimped correctly. Refer to Troubleshooting, "Electrical Connectors - Inspect" for information that relates to the proper troubleshooting of intermittent electrical problems.

STOP

444-05 - There is an active 444-05 diagnostic code. Proceed to Test Step 3.
444-06 - There is an active 444-06 diagnostic code. Proceed to Test Step 5.
Engine Will Not Crank - There are no active diagnostic codes, but the engine will not crank. Proceed to Test Step 7.
Test Step 3. Create a Short Circuit at the Harness Connector for the Start Relay

Turn the keyswitch to the OFF position.
Disconnect the connector for the start relay.
Fabricate a jumper wire that is long enough to connect across the terminals at the connector for the start relay. Crimp connector pins to each end of the jumper wire.
Install the jumper wire across the terminals at the connector for the start relay.
Turn the keyswitch to the ON position.
Observe the "Active Diagnostic" screen on Cat ET. Wait at least 30 seconds so that any codes may become active.
Turn the keyswitch to the START position.
Observe the "Active Diagnostic" screen on Cat ET. Wait at least 30 seconds so that any codes may become active.
Turn the keyswitch to the OFF position. Remove the jumper wire from the connector for the start relay. Connect the connector.
Expected Result:

There is an active 444-06 diagnostic code.

Results:

OK - A 444-06 code became active when the wires were short circuited at the connector for the start relay.
Repair: The wiring between the start relay and the ECM is OK. The open circuit is in the relay. Replace the start relay. Clear any diagnostic codes. Verify that the problem is resolved.

STOP

Not OK - A 444-05 code remained active when the wires were short circuited at the connector for the start relay. Proceed to Test Step 4.
Test Step 4. Create a Short Circuit at the ECM

Turn the keyswitch to the OFF position.
Disconnect the J1/P1 ECM connectors.
Fabricate a jumper wire that is long enough to connect across the terminals at the ECM connector. Crimp connector sockets to each end of the jumper wire.
Remove terminal P1-10 (start relay) and terminal P1-67 (start relay return) from the ECM connector. Install the jumper wire into the terminal locations for the start relay.
Connect the J1/P1 ECM connectors.
Turn the keyswitch to the ON position.
Observe the "Active Diagnostic" screen on Cat ET. Wait at least 30 seconds so that any codes may become active.
Turn the keyswitch to the START position.
Observe the "Active Diagnostic" screen on Cat ET. Wait at least 30 seconds so that any codes may become active.
Turn the keyswitch to the OFF position.
Remove the wire jumper. Return all wiring to the original configuration.
Expected Result:

There is an active 444-06 diagnostic code.

Results:

OK - A 444-06 became active when the jumper was installed at the ECM connector. The ECM is operating correctly.
Repair: There is an open circuit in the harness between the ECM connector and the connector for the start relay. Repair the circuit or replace the harness. Verify that the problem is resolved.

STOP

Not OK - A 444-05 remained active when the jumper was installed at the ECM connector.
Repair: Replace the ECM. Refer to Troubleshooting, "Replacing the ECM" for the correct procedure. Verify that the problem is resolved.

STOP

Test Step 5. Create an Open Circuit at the Harness Connector for the Start Relay

Turn the keyswitch to the OFF position.
Disconnect the connector for the start relay.
Turn the keyswitch to the ON position.
Observe the "Active Diagnostic" screen on Cat ET. Wait at least 30 seconds so that any codes may become active.
Turn the keyswitch to the START position.
Observe the "Active Diagnostic" screen on Cat ET. Wait at least 30 seconds so that any codes may become active.
Turn the keyswitch to the OFF position. Connect the connector for the start relay.
Expected Result:

There is an active 444-05 diagnostic code.

Results:

OK - A 444-05 became active when the connector for the start relay was disconnected. The ECM and the harness to the connector are OK.
Repair: The short circuit is in the start relay. Replace the start relay. Clear any diagnostic codes. Verify that the problem is resolved.

STOP

Not OK - A 444-06 remained active when the connector for the start relay was disconnected. Proceed to Test Step 6.
Test Step 6. Create an Open Circuit at the ECM

Turn the keyswitch to the OFF position.
Disconnect the J1/P1 ECM connectors.
Remove terminal P1-10 (start relay) and terminal P1-67 (start relay return) from the ECM connector.
Connect the J1/P1 ECM connectors.
Turn the keyswitch to the ON position.
Observe the "Active Diagnostic" screen on Cat ET. Wait at least 30 seconds so that any codes may become active.
Turn the keyswitch to the START position.
Observe the "Active Diagnostic" screen on Cat ET. Wait at least 30 seconds so that any codes may become active.
Turn the keyswitch to the OFF position.
Return all wiring to the original configuration.
Expected Result:

There is an active 444-05 diagnostic code.

Results:

OK - A 444-05 became active when the wires for the start relay were removed from the ECM connector.
Repair: There is a short circuit in the harness between the ECM connector and the connector for the start relay. Repair the circuit or replace the harness. Verify that the problem is resolved.

STOP

Not OK - A 444-06 remained active when the wires for the start relay were removed from the ECM connector.
Repair: Replace the ECM. Refer to Troubleshooting, "Replacing the ECM" for the correct procedure. Verify that the problem is resolved.

STOP

Test Step 7. Check the Start Signal from the Keyswitch to the ECM

Remove electrical power from the engine ECM.
Remove the wire from the terminal S of the keyswitch.
Restore electrical power to the engine ECM.
Turn the keyswitch to the START position.
Measure the voltage on terminal B of the keyswitch to engine ground.
Measure the voltage on terminal S of the keyswitch to engine ground.
Remove electrical power from the engine ECM.
Expected Result:

Voltage is present on terminal B and terminal S at the keyswitch.

Results:

OK - Voltage is present on terminal B and terminal S at the keyswitch.
Repair: Check continuity of wire 307-OR between the keyswitch and the ECM. Verify that the wire does not have a short or an open.

Proceed to Test Step 8.

Not OK - Voltage is not present on terminal B at the keyswitch.
Repair: If voltage is not present on terminal B, repair the circuit between the +Battery and the keyswitch. Check the circuit protection for the circuit. Verify that the problem is eliminated.

STOP

Not OK - Voltage is not present on terminal S at the keyswitch.
Repair: If voltage is present on terminal B of the keyswitch but not present on terminal S, replace the keyswitch. Return all wiring to the original configuration. Verify that the problem is eliminated.

STOP

Test Step 8. Check for Battery Voltage to the Contacts of the Start Relay

Measure the voltage between the +Battery side of the start relay and the chassis ground.
Expected Result:

The voltage is between 22 VDC and 27 VDC.

Results:

OK - The voltage is correct. Battery voltage is reaching the start relay. Proceed to Test Step 9.
Not OK - The voltage is not correct.
Repair: Battery voltage is not reaching the secondary circuit of the relay. There may be an open circuit in the wiring between the main power relay and the start relay. There may be a problem with a connection or with the circuit for the main power relay between the battery and the relay.Repair the circuit. Verify that the breaker is not tripped. Replace parts, if necessary. Verify that the problem is resolved.

STOP

Test Step 9. Check for Voltage from the Contacts of the Start Relay

Remove the wire to the starting motor from the contacts of the start relay.
Connect a voltmeter between the contacts of the start relay and the engine ground.
Turn the keyswitch to the START position.
Measure the voltage between the contacts of the start relay and the engine ground.
Turn the keyswitch to the OFF position.
Expected Result:

The measured voltage is between 22 VDC and 27 VDC.

Results:

OK - The voltage is correct. The circuit for the start relay is operating correctly. Return the wiring to the original configuration. Proceed to Test Step 10.
Not OK - The voltage is not present.
Repair: Voltage is present to the contacts of the start relay and there are no diagnostic codes for the start relay. The normally open contacts of the start relay are not closing. Replace the start relay. Verify that the problem is resolved.

STOP

Test Step 10. Check for Voltage at the Starter Solenoid

Remove wire 304-WH from the "S" terminal at the starter solenoid.
Turn the keyswitch to the START position while you check for voltage on wire 304-WH.
Turn the keyswitch to the OFF position.
Expected Result:

The measured voltage is between 22 VDC and 27 VDC.

Results:

OK - Voltage is present at the starter solenoid.
Repair: The circuit for the start relay is operating correctly. There is either a problem with the starting motor or there is a mechanical problem that is preventing the engine from cranking.Refer to Troubleshooting, "Engine Will Not Crank" for information that is related to your starting problem.

STOP

Not OK - Voltage is not present at the starter solenoid.
Repair: There is an open circuit in wire 304-WH between the start relay and the starting motor. Repair the circuit. Verify that the repair eliminates the problem.

STOP

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