I have a 2005 Gehl Skid Steer with the Isuzu engine. It runs fine in forward, but sputters & quits in reverse. I used a

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Customer: I have a 2005 Gehl Skid Steer with the Isuzu engine. It runs fine in forward, but sputters & quits in reverse. I used a pressure washer to wash under the cab & remove all the mud. I don't know why this would have any bearing, since it runs fine in forward, but the unit has a brand new motor with maybe 50 hours on it & got low on oil, but never got the low oil pressure light & don't know why it would work fine going forward but not in reverse. Hoping no issues from low oil.
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What is your serial number?

Customer
I tend to think that it may have to do with my high pressure relief valve, as it makes no since that the engine would run fine in forward, but die in reverse, unless there was an issue with my high pressure relief valve/s.
Customer
Serial # 21401261

Anytime you have a problem such as this, is recommended that you remove and inspect your relief valve cartridges for damaged O-rings or leaks as well as debris. If that checks okay and is clean, you will want to have your pressures checked and verified that they are in factory specifications in each position. Also look inside your hydraulic filter and oil for fine metal or debris that would flag a pump or component failure occuring. It is a pleasure to help anyway I can

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What am I looking for once the cartridges are removed & can they be removed & re-installed without needing any new seals?
Customer
I assume that's the 4 valves located on the hydro-static transmission?

Depending on what the seals look like when you remove them will determine whether or not you can reinstall them with the same seals. If they are flattened or have any damage such as small pieces or chunks taken off the O-ring or broken or missing O-rings, or hardened O-rings that are no longer pliable, etc. should all be changed. If you remove the cartridge and find you are able to push the poppet inside the valve and find no debris and no damage to the O-rings, you can gladly reinstall the cartridges. Any time you find any damaged O-rings it is a good idea to replace them because this may be part of your problem and there is no need of looking backwards once you've all ready had a particular valve apart.

Customer
Do you know if they sell a overhaul seal kit for the valves or do they have to be replaced individually?

Your relief valves will usually be mounted in the control valve block for your functions. Your hydrostatic drive will also likely have some relief valves integrated into them as well. Before getting too deep into that I would check for metal and debris in your filter as well as your hydraulic hose ports coming from your pump and into the drive motor in question. If you find metal and debris there is no need of going any further because your hydrostatic drive system needs to be overhauled.

I do not know what is available for seal kits and whether or not they sell the individual O-rings or as a kit. That would be a question for the dealer parts department. However, you will be able to purchase O-rings.

Customer
Both drive motors work fine in forward, so I assume it has nothing to do with them, but am thinking it's the high pressure relief valves in the hydro-static transmission. It's only killing the engine when backing up.

I would remove and inspect your relief valve cartridges and your control valves for your travel.

Customer
Where are those located? Are they both on the transmission?

What is your model skid steer?

Customer
Gehl CTL 70

I believe there are some Gehl/Mustang skidsteer parts book PDF's floating around on the Internet that I have come across in the past. I cannot tell you off the top of my head as I am exposed to a lot of different pieces of equipment but if I can come up with that parts book, that will tell you where all your components are or at least help you identify them.

Customer
I have the service manual, but not real clear. I tried to attach it, but the file is too big

I have to run because my family is sitting down for dinner. The link I posted above is your parts manual. You will be able to access all your parts breakdowns in that book.

Customer
Thanks

Pleasure to help any way I can.

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