Deere 317 kohler 17 Hp. 80's model is my guess. 4 front hydraulic connections 2 at rear and pulley drive at rear. Ok the

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Customer: John deere 317 kohler 17 Hp. 80's model is my guess. 4 front hydraulic connections 2 at rear and pulley drive at rear. Ok the problem I'm having is with the hydraulics. I picked up this tractor used so I don't know its repair history. Engine sounds and runs great. The hydrostatic system not so much. I changed out the fluid with hydraulic fluid. Waiting on the filter to change that out too. The hydraulics that operate the front scraper are very slow to respond specially when cold. Same for the forward / reverse function and rear lift for the rototiller. When it warms up it responds much better but not how it should be, still slow. Fluid is full level at sight tube while engine off. One thing that did stand out was that if I'm at full throttle and full forward position on the lever it goes at a ok speed but if I pull on the inside hydraulic lever that lifts the scraper out front the mower takes off like a rocket. Gains speed and power. I wondered up driving it with that hydraulic lever as speed control with the forward lever set at full speed. Hope I made sense. How can I get the hydraulic lift to work properly and have the forward lever control the speed and power like its supposed too.
Answered by curtis b in 13 hours 5 years ago
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Hello! Let's see if we can work together and come to a satisfactory conclusion!

mower has a divertor valve that uses the hydrostat pump to power the hydraulics, this valve may be sticking or has internal problems. I would locate it and take it part, looking for stuck valve or broken spring. See parts picture below in link.

has knob on it, #1 , it may be in wrong position!

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I'm not home to try this out till Saturday. But I will take a look. How does 55 sound for your help and if its not the issue can buy you a bit after? I initially put 15$ just answer set that initial amount. So if add 40 more ? I'm new to this please bear with me .
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I meant bug you after if it doesn't work not buy . auto correct

Leave question open, and use link in your email to gt back here when you have a chance to work on tractor. You can add tip if you like but is not necessary.

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Will do. Thank you.
Customer
Hey Curtis finally got home to check out the JD. I don't see that part in the schematic. I followed the lines and they go to the front and rear connectors and a hydraulic Cyl under the tractor. I attached pics of what the lines connect too

I see no pictures!

Customer
Ah great. Its. Basically the dotted outline on the picture you posted. All the lines go to it. There's no separate valve. Ill try to resend the pictures
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Only other thing is the linkage connected to it.

I see no other valves listed in parts list. You say hydrostat is also slow? Tractor uses only one pump, the hydrostat pump is also the hydraulic pump, so if hydrostat is weak, hydraulics are weak.

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but if for example i put the throttle up and push the forward lever all the way to move the mower it does it at a decent pace but if i pull on the lever to lift the scraper the mower basically feels like a boost in speed. the engine revs up too like if the pump had a extra load put on it. Im still waiting on the oil filter for the pump and ill be replacing the hyd oil again along with a hose out back of the diff for oil sight and vent tube. but i followed the hyd line coming out from the control valve and i couldnt find a valve that looks like the one you pointed out and no luck

The way it is listed, it looks to be an optional valve, and may not be there. So it seems the hydraulic valve would have some type of divertor or flow control, but It does not label any such thing. I' going to look for service manual.

11, 12, 13 make up the implement relief valve from service manual, this is to regulate pressure to the hydraulic valve and cylinder. Pressures need to be around 700 psi to cylinder, see link below.

Manual says to check/replace filter and if no change, check pressure and check the relief valves.

Customer
Will do I ordered the filter what do you think of using a crossrefrenced filter vs OE?
Customer
Also id like to send payment but will that close the communication?

If filter is a direct replacement, it should be no difference. As for payment, you can always come back here using link saved in your email.

Customer
I sent a tip. I haven't tried the filter yet still out on the road. I'll keep you posted.
Customer
Hey Curtis just a update on the JD lawn tractor. Filter and oil changed out and it works like a charm. Thanks again.

Good job! Thanks for the update!

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