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CRANE GROVE YB4409 S/N 320811. MOTOR CUMMINS QBS3.3 SERIE…

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CRANE GROVE YB4409 S/N 320811...
CRANE GROVE YB4409 S/N 320811. MOTOR CUMMINS QBS3.3 SERIE 68304177. EL MOTOR ARRANCA PERO NO ACELERA. SE LE CAMBIO EL PEDAL DEL ACELERADOR QUE ES ELECTRONICO, SE LE CAMBIO LA COMPUTADORA Y LE PISAS EL ACELERADOR Y NO HACE NADA EN LO ABSOLUTO. GRACIA, ROLANDO
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Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago
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Cuando cambie el pedal debe calibrarlo al ECM, Para ello puso la llave en la posición ON y presione el acelerador del pedal 3 veces lento que los códigos de falla clave off.Any presente?

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
PLEASE, CAN YOU SEND ME THE TEXT IN ENGLISH PLEASE.
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

When you change the pedal you must calibrate it to the ECM, To do this put the key in the ON position and press throttle pedal 3 times slow than key off.Any fault codes present?

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Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
I will continue SATURDAY
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

ok

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
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Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

Ok have you checked and replaced the crank / cam sensor? The 285 fault means you have a computer in the machine that is not properly communicating with the ECM. Normally that is a Grove crane issue. (OEM)

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
I will be today
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

Ok

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
How can clear the codes?
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

In insite you right click on the code and chose RESET ALL

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
Ok
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

No problem

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
Hello.
You have ECU schematic pins?
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

What ones are you looking for?

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
All the sensor connected to the ecm
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

I cannot get the whole diag. You would have to contact Cummins or a dealer for the wiring diag that is laminated. I can help with specific sensors that may be problems.

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
Can you send me just ecu pins?
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

It's your lucky day I found one for you to use. See attached file

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
You have engine sensor location?
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

What sensor?

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
Camshaft sensor
Coolant level sensor
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

The coolant level sensor is in the coolant overflow/fill tank and the camshaft position sensor is located on the front of the engine above the vibration dampener

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
There have two sensors. One in the left. One in the right.
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
I don't have communication with the insite scanner with the ECM.
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

Than you have no power/ground or keyswitch input to the ecm. Check batterys and fuses if the engine will not start now. Otherwise check your scanner and connections

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
I can't clear the code.
Active. 0285
Inactive 0197, 0689, 0153, 0123, 1117, 0731
Customer reply replied 6 years ago
The accelerator pedal don't work. I did the process as you told me. All wires from pedal to ecm is ok. All powers and output from pedal to ecm ok. The INSITE data monitor don't change when move the pedal.Now engine don't start. Data monitor say:
Engine protection shudown override ON.
Engine warmup protection status ACTIVE.
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

Will Instie connect?

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
Now engine don't start. Data monitor say:
Engine protection shudown override ON.
Engine warmup protection status ACTIVE
I wand know how remove the shudown ON, and change the status ACTIVE
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

What did you change? What faults are present?

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
I can't clear the code.
Active. 0285
Inactive 0197, 0689, 0153, 0123, 1117, 0731The accelerator pedal don't work. I did the process as you told me. All wires from pedal to ecm is ok. All powers and output from pedal to ecm ok. The INSITE data monitor don't change when move the pedal
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

Have you tried another test pedal to confirm it's not that? Use insite and bring up the faults right click and RESET ALL to clear the faults. let me know.

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
I did the process as you told me, the fault code do not reset
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

did the inactive ones go away? the active one will not until it is corrected.

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
the problem is the pedal is not configuredyou know how configured?
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

Yes, when you replace the ecm pr pedal it must be calibrated. To do this , put the key in the ON position and press the throttle 3 times slow. than key off. That is the process for the ECM to work with the throttle.

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
I did don't work0285 active. SE J1939 Multilingual PGN Timeout Error-Adnormal update rateSAE J1939
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

That is a fault for the multiplexing and means that another computer or device is not responding or working with the ecm.

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
This equipment have only one ecm. The fault code say some device lost communication. I thinking is the pedal.
Inactive code don't go away. The pedal configuration you told me not work.Need found pedal configuration.
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

I gave you the calibration process. that is all that is needed. try a new or test pedal If the wiring is all ok as you state and the ecm is not seeing the pedal movement suspect a failed pedal. The insite program has a J1939 data info depending on the version you have. It is the last box on the left hand side on the bottom see what it says. If you replace the pedal you must calibrate it. and if the new or test pedal does not work suspect the ECM is failed internally. Try a Test ECM if possible.

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
I put new pedal and new ecm from factory
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

I asked before today what you have done.... Did you just install the ecm out of the box from the dealer? Was it programmed?

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Customer reply replied 6 years ago
You press the pedal and the output is ok.
Volt changing., but in the ecm's data don't change.
Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

was the the ecm programmed prior to installing? Did you bring the old ecm to the dealer and transfer the information over to the new ecm????

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Mechanic: cumminsdr, Mechanic replied 6 years ago

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