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Have a bad shaking problem after changing my timing belt.

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The balancer has no key...
have a bad shaking problem after changing my timing belt. The balancer has no key way but maybe ive done something wrong there. the motor runs good though no miss fire.
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Chrysler Mechanic: Jon, ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago
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Hi, is the balancer wobblin?

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Chrysler Mechanic: Jon, ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Wobbling sorry

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago

no not at all.

Customer reply replied 2 years ago

The mount on the car are new and were replaced before i did the timing belt and the shaking was never there until i changed the timing belt.

Chrysler Mechanic: Jon, ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

There's 3 mounts on the front of that engine. You have the upper short "dog bone and longer lower dog bone then the center one with the big torx bolt. I'd check the center one. It might be bad or not in place correctly. If either, it will transfer the vibration from the engine to the body especially since its bolted to the frame rail and wasn't there before the timing belt job.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago

jon are you still here with me?

Chrysler Mechanic: Jon, ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Yes

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago

all the engine mounts are good. All three of them and the trans mount as well. its not that.

Customer reply replied 2 years ago

This thing shakes really bad man like a washing machine out of balance. Maybe the balancer is clocked wrong. can you see if they go one in a certain way please.

Chrysler Mechanic: Jon, ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

The balancer definitely just presses onto the crank. There's no keyway like you said. Some PT's had a balance shaft in the oil pan. I'm not in front of a computer .I'll get back to you shortly.

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago

yeah can you send me the procedure of the timing belt replacement please. I want to see if i missed something on my install. I'm wondering if i have the timing belt to lose or to tight.

Chrysler Mechanic: Jon, ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

Turbo or non turbo?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago

no turbo.

Chrysler Mechanic: Jon, ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

TIMING BELT

  1. Set crankshaft sprocket to TDC by aligning the sprocket with the arrow on the oil pump housing.
  2. Set camshafts timing marks so that the exhaust camshaft sprocket is a 1/2 notch below the intake camshaft sprocket (Camshaft Sprocket Alignment For Timing Belt Installation).

    CAUTION: Ensure that the arrows on both camshaft sprockets are facing up.

  3. Install timing belt. Starting at the crankshaft, go around the water pump sprocket, idler pulley, camshaft sprockets and then around the tensioner (Timing Belt Installation).
  4. Move the exhaust camshaft sprocket counterclockwise (Timing Belt Installation) to align marks and take up belt slack.
  5. Insert a 6 mm Allen wrench into the hexagon opening located on the top plate of the belt tensioner pulley. Rotate the top plate COUNTERCLOCKWISE . The tensioner pulley will move against the belt and the tensioner setting notch will eventually start to move clockwise. Watching the movement of the setting notch, continue rotating the top plate counterclockwise until the setting notch is aligned with the spring tang (Timing Belt Tension Adjustment). Using the allen wrench to prevent the top plate from moving, torque the tensioner lock bolt to 25 N·m (220 in. lbs.). Setting notch and spring tang should remain aligned after lock bolt is torqued.
  6. Remove allen wrench and torque wrench.

    NOTE: Repositioning the crankshaft to the TDC position must be done only during the CLOCKWISE rotation movement. If TDC is missed, rotate a further two revolutions until TDC is achieved. DO NOT rotate crankshaft counterclockwise as this will make verification of proper tensioner setting impossible.

  7. Rotate the crankshaft CLOCKWISE two complete revolutions manually for seating of the belt, until the crankshaft is repositioned at the TDC position. Verify that the camshaft and crankshaft timing marks are in proper position (Crankshaft and Camshaft Timing).
  8. Check if the spring tang is within the tolerance window (Timing Belt Tension Verification). If the spring tang is within the tolerance window, the installation process is complete and nothing further is required. If the spring tang is not within the tolerance window, repeat Steps 5 through 7.
  9. Install upper and lower front timing belt covers (Front Timing Belt Covers). (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/VALVE TIMING/TIMING BELT COVER(S) - INSTALLATION).
  10. Connect negative cable to battery.

    TIMING BELT

  11. Set crankshaft sprocket to TDC by aligning the sprocket with the arrow on the oil pump housing.
  12. Set camshafts timing marks so that the exhaust camshaft sprocket is a 1/2 notch below the intake camshaft sprocket (Camshaft Sprocket Alignment For Timing Belt Installation).

    CAUTION: Ensure that the arrows on both camshaft sprockets are facing up.

  13. Install timing belt. Starting at the crankshaft, go around the water pump sprocket, idler pulley, camshaft sprockets and then around the tensioner (Timing Belt Installation).
  14. Move the exhaust camshaft sprocket counterclockwise (Timing Belt Installation) to align marks and take up belt slack.
  15. Insert a 6 mm Allen wrench into the hexagon opening located on the top plate of the belt tensioner pulley. Rotate the top plate COUNTERCLOCKWISE . The tensioner pulley will move against the belt and the tensioner setting notch will eventually start to move clockwise. Watching the movement of the setting notch, continue rotating the top plate counterclockwise until the setting notch is aligned with the spring tang (Timing Belt Tension Adjustment). Using the allen wrench to prevent the top plate from moving, torque the tensioner lock bolt to 25 N·m (220 in. lbs.). Setting notch and spring tang should remain aligned after lock bolt is torqued.
  16. Remove allen wrench and torque wrench.

    NOTE: Repositioning the crankshaft to the TDC position must be done only during the CLOCKWISE rotation movement. If TDC is missed, rotate a further two revolutions until TDC is achieved. DO NOT rotate crankshaft counterclockwise as this will make verification of proper tensioner setting impossible.

  17. Rotate the crankshaft CLOCKWISE two complete revolutions manually for seating of the belt, until the crankshaft is repositioned at the TDC position. Verify that the camshaft and crankshaft timing marks are in proper position (Crankshaft and Camshaft Timing).
  18. Check if the spring tang is within the tolerance window (Timing Belt Tension Verification). If the spring tang is within the tolerance window, the installation process is complete and nothing further is required. If the spring tang is not within the tolerance window, repeat Steps 5 through 7.
  19. Install upper and lower front timing belt covers (Front Timing Belt Covers). (Refer to 9 - ENGINE/VALVE TIMING/TIMING BELT COVER(S) - INSTALLATION).
  20. Connect negative cable to battery.
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Chrysler Mechanic: Jon, ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

did you notice if it has the balance shaft assembly in the oil pan and did you have the chain off of it if so?

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Customer reply replied 2 years ago

no chain just belt.

Chrysler Mechanic: Jon, ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

the chain would be behind the crank sprocket and go down to the balance shaft assembly if it has it. Can you send me a picture of the oil pan viewed from the front of the engine (right side of car)?

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Chrysler Mechanic: Jon, ASE Certified Technician replied 2 years ago

I'm trying to determine if your vehicle has the balance shaft assembly or not in case you're wondering why I'm asking for a picture of the oil pan. I'll be able to tell by looking at the oil pan.

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