I have a 1988 50hp force,I have no spark or interninted spark on no.1 cylinder.I have replaced flywheel,old one had

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Customer: I have a 1988 50hp force,I have no spark or interninted spark on no.1 cylinder.I have replaced flywheel,old one had damaged key way.Replaced stator,trigger,coils,rectifier,cdi pack.When checking spark in garage looks good.Take boat to river to test and loose spark everytime on no.1 cylinder.Has fresh gas,new plugs.Ran tests according to manual and check within spec.Can something still be failing if it tests okay on dva and resistance test?Can you help,running out of ideas?THank You Nathan
Answered by oldnewenglandmarine in 2 mins 10 years ago
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Hi Nathan,

How are you confirming that your dropping spark on the #1 cylinder? Are you using a timing light on it, or some other method?

--Jason

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After starting motor,pulled plug out and held against motor and cranked over and found no spark.

Now what is your voltage from the CDI box to the ignition coil when your doing this? (using the DVA)
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That is my other question I forgot.When I tested dva from cdi to coils at 400dva I could not get any reading at all no voltage checked meter ok.How is that possible to have spark and no voltage coming out of cdi box?

You can't have no voltage and get spark at the same time, you would need a minimum of 100 volts out of the CDI to generate spark. Try reversing your meter leads and take another reading, and let me know what you get.
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Switched leads on meter now getting 270 volts on each side.

270 volts to each coil, correct?
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Yes,270 volts to each coil.

Nathan,

Your down to either a defective coil. (or poor connections on the coils wiring) or simply a bad spark plug. I would swap the plugs first, and see if the problem follows the plug or not. If not, then you know it's the coil not firing. Your getting plenty of voltage to it, so everything before the coil is fine. If it was a stator, trigger, or cdi box problem you would not get any voltage to the coil. (or excessively low voltage).

Thats what is going on here. In the future, when you work on outboard ignition system. Positive and negative are not always positive and negative. So if your using a DVA and don't like the voltages your seeing, simply swap the meter leads and see if voltage changes or not. In this case it did. That should wrap this up, but I do work for tips so I want to make sure you are happy with me before rating me. If you have another question on this feel free to fire away.

Thanks in advance,

Jason

Customer

I now have spark on both cylinders,but I cant get motor started.When you turn the key it fires immediately then stalls,but the motor kicks back so hard every time.Why?

It can be a few things. Is your firing order off? What is the ignition timing set to at cranking speeds?
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