Can you tell me about a 1927 COLT .45/c serial number

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Can you tell me about a 1927 COLT .45/c serial number c150037 with bobbed trigger guard? My limited research has led to this practice of bobbing the trigger guard to the late 1800 to the 1900's. Also referenced MTG as a Texas Ranger . the question is what would this weapon be worth? I have never seen one like this, carried one in the bush till the M-9 replaced it. Thank you

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Firearms Expert: Philip Van Cleave, Associate Degree replied 11 months ago

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Firearms Expert: Philip Van Cleave, Associate Degree replied 11 months ago

The bobbed trigger guard was a modification by gun smiths for those who wanted that change. The modification could have been done to either make access to the trigger quicker on a fast draw or it could be to make shooting the gun with gloves on easier. That modification was being done well past 1927.

Are you saying that gun has MTG marked on it? Is it highly engraved?

Customer reply replied 11 months ago

Thank you. the information that I read provided me with what you told me it was for gloved user, such as the gloves now a day when over in the sand box, minus the finger tips to fit through the trigger guard. the way the picture of the weapon with the letters on are raised would believe special made. Question still what is the worth of this weapon? with the serial number provided in the first question; my grand-son is going to the auction this Saturday. would a picture provide any additional help in my questions

Firearms Expert: Philip Van Cleave, Associate Degree replied 11 months ago

Photos would help

Customer reply replied 11 months ago

What email do I send this to? also of what I've been reading so far, the country Argentine keeps appearing in most blogs that Colt built, still with the serial number provided do you have at your disposal a gun blue book?

Firearms Expert: Philip Van Cleave, Associate Degree replied 11 months ago

Yes - I have Blue Book.

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Your serial number is ***** the range for Argentina, which had its own range from 1 to 10000.

Customer reply replied 11 months ago

Don't know if this helps, but Colt Hartford and Argentine Systema 1927. Found this information on www. gunvaluesboard.com/1927-colt-argentine-22773230.html sending the pics. also I'm learning how to use this web site just started this evening.

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Firearms Expert: Philip Van Cleave, Associate Degree replied 11 months ago

Looking at photos now.

Customer reply replied 11 months ago

thank you

Firearms Expert: Philip Van Cleave, Associate Degree replied 11 months ago

This link isn't working: www.gunvaluesboard.com/1927-colt-argentine-22773230.html

Also, I can't read the slide. Are you saying it has the word 'Systema' marked on the gun?

Customer reply replied 11 months ago

unknown about what is written the photo provided about is what the auctioneer had posted on the inter-net. it will be a given that the 'bobbed trigger guard' was a custom modification. Further research on I found that this gun would only sell between $450-600.00 dollars on Gun broker . Colt only made 1,000 of these in 1927 according to the serial number and their web site. Still what does your blue book say about this gun per year and serial number? versus what I'm finding on the internet gun sites

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Firearms Expert: Philip Van Cleave, Associate Degree replied 11 months ago

OK - that gun can't be an Argentine Systema based on the serial number. That is a Model 1911A1 Pre-WWII Commercial, which was made in the U.S. The modification to the trigger guard will lower the value, which should be between $900 and $1,000, assuming that the gun has at least 60% of the original finish on it.

I hope that helps.

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Customer reply replied 11 months ago

Anything before the United States entry (officially) into WWII 1941 would be pre-WWII. I agree the trigger guard was not factory done per Colt's historian Ms. Haynes who I just spoke to. The serial number provide to her on this gun was made in the United States in 1926, for commercial use. According to the bluebook of guns the value is way less than you quoted due to the modification, so to some respect it's just a paper weight. Thank you for your help

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Firearms Expert: Philip Van Cleave, Associate Degree replied 11 months ago · Answer 1

What makes that the "Pre WWII" model is that is was mfg. from 1925-1942, with a serial number in the range C138,533-C215,000.

Blue Book has the lowest value at $1,000 for that gun if it has 60% finish. Your's appears to have more finish, so it is reduced to the 60% level and then reduced more because of that modification. Depending on the buyer, you might have to drop down a little further.

Blue Book notes that even with less finish than 60%, prices tend to stabilize around the 60% as the gun is a good "shooter."

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