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I think my 9 yr old hen has a sour crop. Is there something

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I think my 9 yr old hen has a sour crop. Is there something I can do quickly as I'm leaving Tuesday for a week.
Submitted: 5 years ago.
Category: Bird Veterinary
Expert:  EmergencyVets replied 5 years ago.

EmergencyVets : Hello and welcome to Just Answer.. My name isXXXXX I am a licensed veterinarian and will be happy to help you today..
EmergencyVets : Have you held this chicken upside down and milked the fluid out of the crop ?
EmergencyVets : Once you do this add some live yogurt to their pellets or mash ..
EmergencyVets : You will also want to mix apple cider vinegar 1 teaspoon into one liter of water. Purchase this at a feed store.. You will want to do all this over the next three to five days until she normalizes . If it lasts more than a week u will need to get a vet out there.
EmergencyVets : I hope this helps. Please do not hesitate to ask any further questions before hitting the green accept button, otherwise I appreciate your positive feedback and wish you the best !! Dr Chad .
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Haven't 'milked' crop yet. How do I do this?

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Expert:  Dr. Pat replied 5 years ago.
Greetings, I am Dr. Pat. I have worked with chickens for many years. I will do my best to help you.

Unfortunately this is not a problem that will be cleared by Tuesday, so you will need to find someone that can care for her while you are gone.

First, what leads you to think it is "sour crop" (a term that I really hate--very inaccurate)? Is the crop distended and hard, doughty, soft and liquidly, does it not empty, etc? If you can be more specific I might be more specific with suggestions.

A distended crop with associated anaerobic bacterial growth ("sour crop") is really due to a blockage of the gizzard--and all the plumbing backs up so that what you see is a crop problem.

The treatment requires crop lavage (emptying and cleaning it out) and gavage (tube feeding) along with sc fluids, GI protectants and propulsants if required, calcium injections, antibiotic injections, pain meds, etc etc. This is a job for a vet who is familiar at least with birds, and more so with poultry.

Once the crop is more-or-less functional, the hen needs to be kept away from gravel and sand (the outdoors) until her gizzard has expelled enough debris to work again. Her diet will need to include high roughage--leafy greens are a great source of fiber, vitamins and minerals, and chickens love them.

The problem you have here is to find out what exactly is the cause. There is nothing specific in what you describe, quite literally 100 different diseases can have the same presentation. Luckily there are labs that work with small producers and an start diagnostics for a very reasonable fee.

There are so many myths in poultry medicine and diseases that I do not have the time to go into every detail, but botXXXXX XXXXXne you need facts to do right by yourself AND your birds. Vinegar is worthless and keeps a dehydrated bird from drinking water.

She is in very serious trouble, and needs local veterinary attention. These signs are of a very sick bird, and not specific to any one disease. And that means it is not fair to you or her to guess, there are so many possibilities.You are going to need local help on this, and a scientific and solid diagnosis to find safe and effective treatment.

You can examine the bird thoroughly again, including opening the mouth and having a good look in there for mucus, redness, masses or anything else unusual. You can take the temperature gently with a rectal thermometer. Anything above 105F/40C is significant. Palpate the tummy for an egg, fluid, lumps or anything else. Check all the joints for swelling, pain, and mobility.

Move the bird indoors to an aquarium, box or carrier with soft towels or hay in the bottom, no perch, and food and water in low bowls that can be reached easily. Keep her partially covered, warm and quiet.

Do not try to force food or water. You can offer warm cooked rice, pancakes, cornbread, grapes, melon, greens in addition to normal food.

I know it is expensive, but you may not have many home options, because the first thing you need a vet for is to find out what is going on. Treatment is only as good as the diagnosis. If you call around, you may find a vet to work within your means. We certainly try to do our best in my clinic.

She needs to see an avian/poultry-experienced veterinarian ASAP for complete examination, diagnosis and appropriate treatment. Check
for members of AAV in your area.
The expense for this is going to be a lot less than inefficient, ineffective, dangerous treatments, guesswork, and loss of the flock; not to mention possible implications to human consumption of tainted eggs. Many states/governments have poultry diagnostic labs that charge very reasonable fees to test for common diseases. In the UK, check:
Because you have others and presumably use the eggs, it is important to have a solid diagnosis and treatment safe for egg consumption. You can check with local County Extension offices, the closest Ag university with a poultry department, or with the closest vet school for a local referral.

If this were my patient, I would start with complete fecal analysis and direct smear, for multiple parasites; bacterial culture and sensitivity of the feces and choana. Depending on the case I might do a fungal culture. Routine blood work is necessary to rule out other issues. I would very likely order a number of DNA tests for poultry viruses as well. Generally I start them out on antibiotics as indicated by the tests (I use human antibiotics that are injectable).

Pet/feed store medications and home remedies are harmful, ineffective, immuno-suppressive, and make them much worse and may interfere with the veterinarian's diagnosis and treatment. Do not use them.

The flock should be on a high quality pelleted diet with extra greens/pasturage. Of late, I have been recommending TOP pet bird pellets (TOP ) as they are more appropriate for the pet chicken. Overcrowding, cleanliness, proper water, environmental temperature, humidity, ventilation, photoperiod, and toxic exposures should be addressed. Check this for husbandry advice.

Check for basic care, set up and maintenance. You need to check for fly and mosquito access, as they can carry certain diseases, and check for external parasites. Mites, lice and fleas (in some areas, ticks) can contribute to over-all health issues, anemia, and disease transmission.

She may need injectable antibiotics, calcium and many other medications. Act quickly and good luck.

Here are some sites of general interest:

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Expert:  Dr. Pat replied 5 years ago.
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