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I have a large quantity of Limoge china. Cannot f8nd the…

I have a large...

I have a large quantity of Limoge china. Cannot f8nd the pattern anywhere. The set was puchased in Uruguay as an antique in the late 70s. Is there anyone who is an expert in china?

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94 pieces, marked a.r. foecy limoges

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Some also have a. Pullivuyt foecy limoges marked on them.havr many serving pieces with the set

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Photos are almost always required to give an accurate assessment. If you cannot send photos, I can still work with your descriptions; however, I can give more accurate answers if I have photos.
Can you send photos?
If so, then -
Please send ONE photo of ONE plate showing the pattern.
Please send a photo of the marks and/or words on the bottom.

You may need to use the macro function (flower icon) of your camera to get a good clear photo of the marks.
If you cannot get a good photo, then sketch the marks and take a photo of the sketch.

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"Complete Sets" come in many different sizes.
Please tell me the following -
How many people does your set serve? (These are called place settings.)
How many pieces does each person have?
What serving pieces are there? These can add as much as 30% to the value of a set.

!!!!!Please do not send photos of the whole set. I cannot tell what pieces are in a set via such a photo!!!!

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Customer reply replied 4 months ago
3 full place settings with 7 pieces including 1 lg plate, 1 small plate, 1 soup bowl, 1 teacup, 1 saucer for tea cup, 1 espresso sz cup, 1 espresso size saucer.In addition to the sets above there are 11 serving pieces including, 1 butter dish, 1 gravy boat with attached dish, 2 desert pedestals, 2 soup turines with lids, 3 recatangular platters that nest large to small, 1 large circular platter, 1 large deep serving bowl.
In addition to the full place settings above and seving pieces I also have,
4 teacups with tiny chips
3 teacup saucers
3 espresso sz cups
9 espresso size saucers
15 soup bowls
18 large dishes
9 small dishes
Sorry but i attached 2 photos of the plate one is a close-up of the pattern. Also there are three different markings , some abbreviated other written out, i attached all three.
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Thank you for the photos and information. Please give me a few minutes to study them and type a complete response.

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Customer reply replied 4 months ago
Thank you so much for your prompt reply!
I look forward ro your reply.
Best,
Karen

Karen.

All these marks are those of the Albert Pillivuyt factory dating here 1913-1920. (What looks like AR is actually A P with periods.) This factory was located near Limoges in the small city of Foecy in central France.

This pattern was hand painted, most probably as a custom order.

The estimated retail value of all the pieces you list in the set is $1900-2200.

Again,

As for where to sell.....If you want to sell quickly at wholesale prices, try one of these sites.

In US:
ChinaLane.com
ChinaFinders.com
ChinaReplacements.com
Replacements.com

In UK:
ChinaSearch.co.uk
MatchingChina.co.uk
ChinaMatchers.co.uk
ReplaceYourPlates.co.uk
ReplaceYourChina.com

Australia: http://www.allthegalleries.com/dealers/porcelain.html

Online auctions like eBay generally bring wholesale selling prices. Sales in the eBay "Buy It Now" format are closer to retail.

If you would like to sell close to estimated retail, some ideas are:

The internet has your largest audience of buyers. Place small ads on these sites or set up your own small store on these sites.

Be sure to specify local pick up only for large items. That way the buyer would be responsible for obtaining his own insurance and transport.

These sites carry antique as well as vintage items.
Accept PayPal only.

Etsy.com - small fees-20 cents to list plus 3.5% final price.
Artfire.com

These sites are excellent and more upscale but fees are higher. I only recommend them if you have several items to sell.

Rubylane.com
Tias.com
cyberattic.com
trocadero.com
https://www.justcollecting.com

Or your nearest CraigsList.com or nextdoor.com where you can list items for free. Accept cash only.

And again,

Packing porcelain from Haviland International:

1. Start with a layer of packing material such as bubble wrap, packing pellets or poly foam at the bottom of a sturdy box. For shipping some items it may be better to use more than one interior carton if more than one item is being shipped.

2. Heavy items, such as pottery, platters, tureens or vases must be wrapped in large bubble wrap (two layers is even better) and placed in smaller separate boxes before adding them to the larger outer shipping carton. This is known as DOUBLE BOXING, a box inside a box.

3. Begin packing the box with the heaviest items, then proceed with the lighter items as you fill the box.

4. Wrap plates, bowls and serving pieces separately in bubble wrap. Heavier pieces and delicate items need to be wrapped in large bubble wrap. To ensure that the wrapping stays in place, secure it with a small strip of tape or, better yet, rubber bands. Rubber bands are easier to remove, as they do not require a knife or razor blade, and will stretch and shrink as the ambient temperature changes.

5. Fill any empty space with styrofoam peanuts (or crumpled newspaper, or ...) to prevent contents from shifting and to keep the box firm.

6. Add a final layer of packing material to the top of the box before you seal it to prevent the contents from shifting and to keep the box firm.

7. Label the outer shipping carton with FRAGILE labels.

8. If you are willing to drop the box to the floor from a standing position after you have packed it then you have probably packed it correctly.

Following these instructions carefully will prevent problems for both buyers and sellers.

Depending on the value or importance of the pieces being shipped, you may wish to consider using plastic boxes (Tupperware, etc.) as your interior containers after bubble wrapping each piece individually. These are much less likely to be crushed if the parcel receives rough handling in shipment.

It is recommended to use Priority Mail insured or UPS for your shipments*. Parcel Post may take up to three weeks to reach the destination and the parcels are handled more frequently.

* It is not recommended to use FedEx to ship porcelain and glass. The fine print on their website states that their limit of liability for these commodities is $100, regardless of how much insurance is purchased at the time of shipment.

UPS shipping guidelines for porcelain and glass require that each piece be surrounded on all sides with two inches of packing material. This may seem excessive, but you will realize that this is only to try to guarantee safe arrival, especially when you open an improperly packed parcel that contains broken pieces.

Ultimately, to obtain these retail values we assume the piece or set is in good condition and that the final value depends on sale geographic location.

In general, a private seller to a dealer, via consignment or at auction can expect 30-50% of estimated retail value.

Insurance replacement values are usually about 20%-50% more than retail values.

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Customer reply replied 4 months ago
Thank you for all of the information, Doris. I have been looking online for a while trying to find comparable pieces and there were not many and nothing at all in that pattern. It now makes sense to me especially if it were a custom order. They are beautiful dishes! I was very pleased with your response time and information. If you have knowledge of dolls I would like to use ypur services again. Do you know dolls too?

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Ok, I will gather them up and request you in the future. Thank You!

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