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My 185 runs ok but will not go into gear

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My 185 runs ok but will not go into gear
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Agriculture and Farm Equipment
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Hello. Thank you for choosing Just Answer. My name is***** will be happy to assist you.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Is this a riding or zero turn mower? What are the make and model numbers?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Joh deer hydro 185 riding
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Are you still there?
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Yes. Thanks for your reply.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Did our problem occur suddenly, or gradually, over a period of time?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I do not want to phone
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Can you help me?
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

No problem. The phone will not be needed.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Did our problem occur suddenly, or gradually, over a period of time?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
The problem was sudden running OK stopped to lower mower would not go into gear
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Thanks for your reply.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Check your drive belt. If it is loose, worn, or slipping, this can cause our problem.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

I am referring to the belt that drives your transaxle,

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Shifter moves into position but does not engauge
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Your belt may have slipped off of one of your pulleys.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Is the linkage a drive belt
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Your linkage is a different part from your drive belt.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Are you near your mower?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

I will attach a link to an image that shows your drive belt.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Ok
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

The belt in the image is blue ...

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
The belt I see is attached to mower
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

You will have to look closely to see your belt. It is above your deck, and under your frame.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
That belt is there & is ok
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Thank you for checking. how many total belts do you see on your mower?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
The shifter moves into fwd or rev but does not click into anything
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I think 2 motor & mower
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Both seen tight
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Seem
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Can I get you to check something for me?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
You still there
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Yes, I am here. Can I get you to check something for me?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
ok
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Thanks!

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Check to see if your mower will roll if you push it. Check with your hydro in and out of bypass position. This is for troubleshooting only.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
What is bypass
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Is that they shifter?
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Bypass is when you need to roll your mower without your engine running.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
What lever is bypass?
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

I am not exactly sure of the location of your bypass lever, on your particular mower.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Are you 100% certain that your drive belt is tight?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
It wI'll not roll with knob under seat depressed or not
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I will check again
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Thank you for checking.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
It is not tight
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
It is loose
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Couple inches slack
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

A loose belt will prevent your mower from driving.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Does not seem broken. How do I tighten
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Or can I?
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

It is likely off of one of your pulleys, or your idler pulley is not tightening it, after you release your clutch/brake pedal.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Lower your mower deck, and inspect the full length of your belt.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I did try the brake lock then released it
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Did releasing your brake cause your belt to tighten?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I will check
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Ok ...

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Your drive must remain tight at all times, during the operation of your mower, unless you depress your brake/clutch pedal.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

We need to determine why your belt has two (2) inches of slack in it.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Thereally is a pully in the middle that the belt goes by on both side
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
It is loose on both sides. Does that pully move to on side or the other
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

You should have two idler pulleys. One is v-shaped, and the other is a flat pulley. Those pulleys should move in order to tighten your belt.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Hoe do you get to this area
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Bother pulleys between engine & trans?
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Sometimes it is easier if you remove your deck, and lift the front of your mower off of the ground. Do you have someone who can depress your clutch/brake pedal, while you look to see if these pulleys move?

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
No
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Ok ...

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

At least you and I know that your drive belt is at fault.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I think I need to get back to you when my son is here
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Take another look at the picture I attached for you. Make sure your belt is around both pulleys, as it is in the picture.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

No problem. This will be fine.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

I will be here.

Customer: replied 1 year ago.
The picture showas around 1 pulley & against another
Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

True. Your belt needs to be routed the same.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Take a look at the link above. There is another pulley up toward the front of your engine, near your engine pulley.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Confirm whether your belt is on all of your pulleys. You have a total of five (5) pulleys.

Expert:  Donald replied 1 year ago.

Engine Pulley

Three (3) idler pulleys

And your transaxle/transmission pulley