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I can't get it to start, The vehicle cranks but no start,

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I can't get it to start

Mechanic's Assistant: Have you checked the battery, particularly the terminal connections? Are they corroded?

The vehicle cranks but no start

Mechanic's Assistant: What is the model/year of your Acura?

2005 acura tl

Mechanic's Assistant: Are you fixing your TL yourself? What have you tried so far?

I have a fully charged battery I have checked for spark which I have and just to rule out the fuel I sprayed starting fluid in the throttle body but still no start

Mechanic's Assistant: Anything else you want the mechanic to know before I connect you?

I just bought this car and it does not come with the original key but I believe that it's been programmed since the green key light in the dash goes away when the key is inserted, weird thing is I don't get a check engine light when I open the key to on "II", the check engine light never illuminates

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Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago
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Hi Im David, thanks for visiting the site. when you turn the key on can you hear the fuel pump running for a few seconds?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I do hear it priming
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

ok, and you said that there is no check engine light that comes on when turning the key on?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
no check engine light even if I disconnect a sensor it does not illuminate
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

ok, before you do anything else, remove the instrument cluster and check to see if there is a bulb there. if it is removed then the seller removed it which is illegal.

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Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

i will get you the procedure

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Indeed there is no bulb
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
But regardless of that I have connected a scanner and I get no codes, i can do it again if needed
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

without a check engine light bulb, do you get rpms while cranking?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I do
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Do I need to put the cluster back together now?
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

ok, and the security light goes out while cranking?

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Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

yes, but without the pcm seeing the completed circuit through the check engine light bulb, you will always have issues.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Ok I'll buy another another cluster but I'll still be able to turn the car on right?
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

do you have a noid light?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I have a noid light
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

check for injector pulse

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I have injector pulse
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

was this vehicle in running condition when you bought it?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
No
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

ok, who did you buy it from? private party or dealer?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Auction
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

does it crank strong?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
if I leave it cranking for more than 10 sec it wants to start, like if it was flooded with gas but at the end no start
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

and you checked all cylinders for spark?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I have checked the front 3
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

check the rear. i know easier said than done, but you aint going to start an engine on only 3 cylinders

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
One sec
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I get spark on all cylinders
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

put a new bulb in the check engine light hole

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Is that one bulb not gonna let the car start?
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I should get the codes either way wouldn't I? If it get any codes
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

no, the bulb completes the readiness monitors

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Mechanic for Acura: Joshua Haynes,
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Hi, my name is ***** ***** I will assist you. Please give me a moment to catch up on what has been done already...

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Mechanic for Acura: Joshua Haynes,
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Ok, i see that you have checked for codes and there don't seem to be any...will your scanner allow you to see which I/M monitors have passed and which ones have not?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I dont think so
Mechanic for Acura: Joshua Haynes,
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Ok. I feel like delving into the missing mil bulb may take us down the incorrect track so we will move on from here...but we may revisit it later

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Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

I will take it from here.

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Mechanic for Acura: Joshua Haynes,
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No problem, I didn't mean to intrude. Good luck, guys!

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Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

Just to let you know, without the check engine light bulb we will be beating our heads against the wall here.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I want to fix the bulb but I really doubt that a light bulb can keep the car from starting, I'm not doubting the expert but just have never seen anything like that and if that is true than I will have a different opinion on Honda engineering
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

very well, then the only thing left is checking compression. just to let you know, when a vehicle does have a check engine light bulb installed and the light doesnt come on when you turn the key to the run position, the computer is bad. So, if you still dont think the c.e.l. doesnt have anything to do with the vehicle starting, then ai would suggest to rethink that.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I will have to get a bulb from somewhere i don't have one on hand to replace it I'll get back to you
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

ok. let me know

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I checked compression earlier and its between 135-140
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

ok, well we know thats not the problem, its looking like the computer more and more

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Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

hows it going?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Called Napa, AutoZone and oriellys and nobody has that style of led I'll be calling the dealership today since it was weekend when we started this little project
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

have you done a fuel pressure leak down test?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I have not
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

try that and see how long it takes the pressure to bleed off.

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Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

hows it going?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Got the led bulbs in today I'll solder it and get back to you
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

dont forget to do a leak down test

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Ok
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

cool

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Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

hows it going?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Led bulb is in, I put back together the cluster but could not find my fuel pressure gauge for the leak down test
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I'll borrow one today from another mechanic
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

ok good just let me know thanks

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Ok I did the fuel leak down test and after sitting for 20 min it went from 50psi to 40psi
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

ok, thats not too bad.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
what do we do now?
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

standby

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Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

ok, now with the check engine light finally working, have it scanned or codes.

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Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

if still no codes, replace the ecm

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Is the other ecm going to require any special programming?
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

yes. you can buy one pre programmed ff of ebay

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Is there any way I can check the ecm for being bad I don't want to start just throwing money at parts without being sure they are defective
Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Cause let's remember that I do have spark and I do have fuel, compression and the immobilizer seems fine all those things have to come from the ecm and they are there
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

hows it going?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Fuses are good still no start
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

replace the computer.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
I just heard something and I don't know if it's possible but maybe you can help, the car was bought at an auction with the car being a reposession and mechanical problems well is there any way that the dealer has some sort of immobilizer hook up to the car I hear they exist and maybe that's the reason why the car won't start?
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

itss very possible there is a gps hooked up to the vehicle and the shutoff is enabled.

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Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

hows it going?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Well I can't find no gps shutoff on the car I've looked at all the wiring under the steering wheel which is where I would assume it should be and nothing, the green key light at the dash flashes 5 times when I remove the key I don't know if that means anything
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

recheck for fault codes.

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Ok
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

let me know

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Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

anything?

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Customer reply replied 8 months ago
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, the ecm is on its way same part number so let's wait and see when it gets here
Mechanic for Acura: david craig, Acura Mechanic replied 8 months ago

ok thanks

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