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Glow plug will not stay on more than a few seconds when the

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Glow plug will not stay on more than a few seconds when the ignition is turned on. It is hard to start and worse as the temperature drops. I have replaced the glow plug wiring harness, the glow plug relay, the temperature sensor and it still does it. If I disconnect the temp. sensor they will work.
JA: Have you checked the connectors on the sensor itself? It's important that they not be loose or corroded.
Customer: Yes all appear to be in good condition. I have checked all the wiring I can think of. It is a a 1998 Jetta TDI also by the way. AHU engine code. I am stumped at this point.
JA: Are you fixing your Jetta yourself? What have you tried so far?
Customer: Yes I am fixing it myself. It had a code in it for "glow plug monitoring intermittent" and i've checked everything I can find related to that with no luck
JA: Anything else you want the mechanic to know before I connect you?
Customer: No that i can think of. This problem is new it has worked fine in the past
Submitted: 6 days ago.
Category: VW
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 6 days ago.

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I do need some more info please

  • does the engine crank slower than usual?
  • what is the electrical resistance of the glow plugs?
  • when was the last time the fuel filter was replaced ?
  • how many miles on the vehicle?
  • i do need a vin # of the vehicle

thanks

Customer: replied 6 days ago.
VIN# ***** *****
Engine cranks normal. It will start fine with the temp. sensor unplugged to make the glow plugs cycle longer.
The glow plugs are fairly new, also replaced the glow plug relay, glow plug wiring harness, and temp. sensor
208000 miles
fuel filter was replaced approx. 2 months ago.
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 6 days ago.

ok the code do you have the fault code # ? either the 5 digit sae # pr the Pxxxx # will do

while you answer this question , Let me get the factory information on your vehicle

Customer: replied 6 days ago.
Don't have the code number but its was "glow plug monitoring intermittent"
I think it was P0150 but that is from memory and might not be accurate.
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 6 days ago.

ok when was the last time the timing belt was replaced?

Customer: replied 6 days ago.
It was done about 40000 miles ago.
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 6 days ago.

did you do the belt with the special tools and then fine timed it with VAG com?

Customer: replied 6 days ago.
it was done by a VW technician
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 6 days ago.

ok did you inspect the fuse for the glow plugs itself? the fuse is a strip fuse. it tends to deteriorate and have contact issue .

Customer: replied 6 days ago.
all fuses are good. The fuse on the fuse block at the top under the dash and the fuse on the firewall under the hood are all good.
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 6 days ago.

i wonder that the intake is clogged with carbon build up causing a breathing issue !!

Customer: replied 6 days ago.
No. It has to be an electrical or sensor issue. The car runs fine after its started. The glow plugs works fine with the temp sensor unplugged. I have tried a couple temp sensors and it makes no difference.
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 6 days ago.

under stand that but think about this ... at cold start up yes you have glow plug operation to heat the cylinder for the fuel for ignition. but you need air and a restriction especially when cold will cause a real hard start. once running you have the heat and air but while running much easier to ignite than on slow crank start .. that has to be really considered.

Customer: replied 6 days ago.
I understand that but the problem is my glow plugs will only stay on for a couple seconds unless i disconnect the temp sensor. Once i do that it defaults to a max glow plug cycle and it starts fine. The intake is in really good condition. I cleaned it less than 20000 miles ago when the turbo was replaced. Plus the code is a glow plug monitoring code. I would assume that something within that system triggered that code.
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 6 days ago.

thanks for the extra info !! it helps to know what has been done to the vehicle to narrow the issue!!

what is the temps in your area ?

Customer: replied 5 days ago.
The tempsare getting into the 30'sand 40' with some night time temps getting to the 20's
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 5 days ago.

OK with this there is diagnosis pinpoint needed and will take a premuim service to assist you with this . please premuim service offer .

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