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2005 jetta runs good but misses at idle

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2005 jetta runs good but misses at idle
Submitted: 10 months ago.
Category: VW
Expert:  Kevin replied 10 months ago.

Hi im kevin is engine warning light on ? Have you had fault codes read ?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
engine light is on an blinks when idleing there is codepo302
Expert:  Kevin replied 10 months ago.

Ok the first thing i would do is swap ignition coil from cylinder 1 to 2 and clear fault codes and see if missfire moves with coil .the ignition coils are the most common failure

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Ok we have an extra coil pack we will put on.it . An vacumn is about 13 pounds
Expert:  Kevin replied 10 months ago.

Vacumme or compression ?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Vacumn
Customer: replied 10 months ago.
But runs great above 5 miles an hour
Expert:  Kevin replied 10 months ago.

Ok vacumme wont be your issue on this one have you swapped coil ?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
It is a coil pack i have another one so i will swap them
Expert:  Kevin replied 10 months ago.

Ok let me know if there is improvement

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Ok i will thanks
Expert:  Kevin replied 10 months ago.

Please remember to rate my service and come back to me

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Ok put other coil pack seemed to run good for a few minutes then got warm an code 302 came back
Expert:  Kevin replied 10 months ago.

Ok the next step would be to have compression checked to make sure me hanically everything is good

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Ok i will check conpression but last time it was 110
Expert:  Kevin replied 10 months ago.

Let me know readings for all cylinders

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Ok
Expert:  Kevin replied 10 months ago.

Il wait for your response

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Ok numder one is 100 number two is 100 .three is 80. Four is 80
Expert:  Kevin replied 10 months ago.

Ok so you've ruled out cool and compression next step would be to swap an injector from cylinder 2 to see if misfire follows

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Okay I'll switch them right now
Expert:  Kevin replied 10 months ago.

Let me know how you get on

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Okay swapted the injectors erased code still got 302 erased again drove it still po302
Expert:  Kevin replied 10 months ago.

Ok im gonna opt out see if another tech has any ideas

Expert:  Wolfgang replied 10 months ago.

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what make and model scan tool are you using please?

thanks

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Hello wolfgang i have a kal 9640enhanced scan tool
Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Kal equip tm 9640
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 10 months ago.

what happens if you feed some carb cleaner in the intake does the idle smooth out?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
No it stays the same or shakes wirse.above 20 car runs perfect
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 10 months ago.

if you pull the plug wire out a little while running do you hear the snap of electrical voltage ? pill out aboyt an inch

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
i hear the snap when i pull wire away
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 10 months ago.

need to swap injectors then to see if that moves most likely an injector is stuck closed

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Tried that did not change. erased code po302 an came back code 302 after i erased code twice
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 10 months ago.

do you have a leak down tester . i wonder you have a sticking valve or a pumped up lifter

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
No pump down tester any way else i can check it.i could see when i pull wire away engine did not change rpm
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 10 months ago.

this is what we have you have swaped plugs, wires,injector , coil and compression test and no change the last test is a leakdown test to see if you have a valve or lifter hanging up. with all of the tests it sounds mechanical .

let me ask you this was the timing belt broke or changed recently?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
timeong belt was changed
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 10 months ago.

by you ? and if so was it broken before changing it?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
know w e changed head.lifter had hole in it.
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 10 months ago.

do you have any pics of the head and lifter etc... the more the better

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Ok o will take some pictures
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 10 months ago.

thanks

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
How do I send you pictures
Customer: replied 10 months ago.
i will put air in cylinder an see if it holds right
Expert:  Wolfgang replied 10 months ago.

there should be a paper clip icon where you can sent the pics

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Did you get pictures
Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Okay i made a homemade pressure tester for cylinder seems to be holding pressure
Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Please get back to me Wolfgang wE are so close I know you can do it you're really good at this
Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Wolfgang You still with me

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