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Volkswagen Jetta TDI: I'm a tech 2011 jetta tdi,p13d5 "cylinder

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I'm a tech 2011 jetta tdi,p13d5 "cylinder 3 short to ground,changed glow plugs and relay same code....
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: VW
Expert:  Billy replied 1 year ago.
Hello and Welcome! I'm Billy and i will assist you with your inquiry. Feel free to ask if any further info is needed.
VW issued a technical service bulletin on this problem, which i will include so you check and proceed accordingly:
Technical Service Bulletin Transaction No.:(###) ###-####2
28-14-04 - MIL ON - Glow Plug Pressure Sensor Faults Stored in ECM Fault Memory Release date: Sep 24, 2014
Condition
Model(s)
Year
Eng. Code
Trans. Code
VIN Range From
VIN Range To
Jetta, Jetta Wagon
2009-2010
2.0L TDI
(CBEA,CJAA)
All
All
All
(A6) Golf, Jetta, Jetta SportWagen, (A7) Golf
2010-2015
2.0L TDI
(CJAA, CRUA, CVCA)
All
All
All
Passat
2012-2015
2.0L TDI
(CKRA, CVCA)
All
All
All
Beetle, Beetle Convertible
2012-2015
2.0L TDI
(CJAA, CRUA, CVCA)
All
All
All
28 14 04 September 24, 2014(###) ###-####Supersedes Technical Bulletin V281403 dated July 11, 2014 to include model year 2015 applicability.
MIL ON - Glow Plug Pressure Sensor Faults Stored in ECM Fault Memory
DTC
Description
P13CE
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 1 Electrical error
P13CF
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 1 Short circuit to ground
P13D0
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 1 Implausible signal
P13D1
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 2 Electrical error
P13D2
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 2 Short circuit to ground
P13D3
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 2 Implausible signal
P13D4
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 3 Electrical error
P13D5
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 3 Short circuit to ground
P13D6
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 3 Implausible signal
P13D7
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 4 Electrical error
P13D8
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 4 Short circuit to ground
P13D9
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 4 Implausible signal
P13E0
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 1 Malfunction
P13E1
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 2 Malfunction
P13E2
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 3 Malfunction
P13E3
Sensor for internal pressure of cylinder 4 Malfunction
Technical Background
When diagnosing MIL ON with glow plug pressure sensor DTC’s it important to perform diagnosis prior to replacing the glow plug.
Production Solution
Implemented into production.
Service
Step 1:
When diagnosing a glow plug pressure sensor DTC, before replacing the glow plug, first check for loose connections. You can check for any loose connections by performing a push or pull test of the connectors. If on a push test, a click can be felt or on a pull test, the connector comes off very easily, the connection is most likely the cause. Properly seat the connector, clear any DTCs, and test drive the vehicle. DO NOT replace the glow plug if a loose connection is found and no faults return after test drive. If fault returns, continue to step 2.
Step 2:
A check of the glow plug can be performed by swapping the glow plug from the affected cylinder with the glow plug from an adjacent cylinder without a fault.
Note:
Ensure when re-securing the connector that connector is fully seated.
After swapping the glow plug(s), perform a test drive of the vehicle to attempt to duplicate the DTC.
Note:
It may take two drive cycles for the MIL to illuminate.
If after swapping the glow plug, the DTC follows the glow plug, there is a faulty glow plug. Replace the glow plug. If the DTC stays in the same cylinder after swapping the glow plug continue to step 3.
Step 3: Glow plug wiring harness and connectors should be checked.
While checking the harness you can monitor MVB 141 or in UDS equipped vehicles monitor the Maximal_Cylinder_Pressure_Cyllinder_X values for each cylinder while manipulating the harness and connectors, watching for changes in the readings. If the harness is found to be at fault, replace the harness.
Warranty
Step 1
To determine if this procedure is covered under Warranty, always refer to the Warranty Policies and Procedures Manual 1)
Model(s)
Year(s)
Eng. Code(s)
Trans. Code(s)
VIN Range From
VIN Range To
Jetta, Jetta Wagon (A5)
2009-2010
2.0L TDI
(CBEA,CJAA)
All
All
All
(A6) Golf, Jetta, Jetta SportWagen, (A7) Golf
2010-2015
2.0L TDI
(CJAA, CRUA, CVCA)
All
All
All
Passat
2012-2015
2.0L TDI
(CKRA, CVCA)
All
All
All
Beetle, Beetle Convertible
2012-2015
2.0L TDI
(CJAA, CRUA, CVCA)
All
All
All
SAGA Coding
Claim Type:
Use applicable Claim Type 1)
Service Number:
Damage
Code
HST
Damage Location (Depends on Service No.)
9752
0028
--
Use applicable when indicated in ElsaWeb (L/R)
Parts Manufacturer
Golf, Passat
WWO 2)
Jetta, Jetta Sportwagen, Beetle, Beetle Convertible
3ME 2)
Labor Operation 3) : Engine Wiring Harness Connection Repair
97524199 = 10 TU
Causal Part: Select Labor operation
97524199
Diagnostic Time 4)
GFF Time expenditure
01500000 = 20 TU max.
YES
Road Test
01210004 = 10 TU
YES
Technical Diagnosis
(Includes wiring checks)
01320000 = 30 TU max.
YES
Claim Comment: Input “As per Technical Bulletin(###) ###-#### ***** comment section of Warranty Claim.
1) Vehicle may be outside any Warranty in which case this Technical Bulletin is informational only
2) Code per warranty vendor code policy.
3) Labor Time Units (TUs) are subject to change with ELSA updates.
4) Documentation required per Warranty Policies and Procedures Manual.
OR
Step 2
To determine if this procedure is covered under Warranty, always refer to the Warranty Policies and Procedures Manual 1)
Model(s)
Year(s)
Eng. Code(s)
Trans. Code(s)
VIN Range From
VIN Range To
Jetta, Jetta Wagon (A5)
2009-2010
2.0L TDI
(CBEA,CJAA)
All
All
All
(A6) Golf, Jetta, Jetta SportWagen, (A7) Golf
2010-2015
2.0L TDI
(CJAA, CRUA, CVCA)
All
All
All
Passat
2012-2015
2.0L TDI
(CKRA, CVCA)
All
All
All
Beetle, Beetle Convertible
2012-2015
2.0L TDI
(CJAA, CRUA, CVCA)
All
All
All
SAGA Coding
Claim Type:
Use applicable Claim Type 1)
Service Number:
Damage
Code
HST
Damage Location (Depends on Service No.)
2884
0040
--
Use applicable when indicated in ElsaWeb (L/R)
Parts Manufacturer
Jetta, Jetta Sportwagen, Beetle, Beetle Convertible, Passat, Golf
BEO 2)
Passat
Labor Operation 3) : Glow plug removed+reinstalled
28841933 = 40 TU
OR
Labor Operation 3) : 4 Glow plugs removed+reinstalled
28842033 = 50 TU
Jetta, Jetta Sportwagen, Golf, Beetle, Beetle Convertible
Labor Operation 3) : Glow plug removed+reinstalled
28841933 = 50 TU
OR
Labor Operation 3) : 4 Glow plugs removed+reinstalled
28842033 = 70 TU
2015 Golf
Labor Operation 3) : Glow plug removed+reinstalled
28841905 = 30 TU
OR
Labor Operation 3) : 4 Glow plugs removed+reinstalled
28842005 = 40 TU
Causal Part: Glow Plug
03L 905 061G
Diagnostic Time 4)
GFF Time expenditure
01500000 = 40 TU max.
YES
Road Test
01210004 = 10 TU
YES
Technical Diagnosis
(Includes additional drive cycles)
01320000 = 90 TU max.
YES
Claim Comment: Input “As per Technical Bulletin(###) ###-#### ***** comment section of Warranty Claim.
1) Vehicle may be outside any Warranty in which case this Technical Bulletin is informational only
2) Code per warranty vendor code policy.
3) Labor Time Units (TUs) are subject to change with ELSA updates.
4) Documentation required per Warranty Policies and Procedures Manual.
OR
Step 3
To determine if this procedure is covered under Warranty, always refer to the Warranty Policies and Procedures Manual 1)
Model(s)
Year(s)
Eng. Code(s)
Trans. Code(s)
VIN Range From
VIN Range To
Jetta, Jetta Wagon (A5)
2009-2010
2.0L TDI
(CBEA,CJAA)
All
All
All
(A6) Golf, Jetta, Jetta SportWagen, (A7) Golf
2010-2015
2.0L TDI
(CJAA, CRUA, CVCA)
All
All
All
Passat
2012-2015
2.0L TDI
(CKRA, CVCA)
All
All
All
Beetle, Beetle Convertible
2012-2015
2.0L TDI
(CJAA, CRUA, CVCA)
All
All
All
SAGA Coding
Claim Type:
Use applicable Claim Type 1)
Service Number:
Damage
Code
HST
Damage Location (Depends on Service No.)
9752
0040
--
Use applicable when indicated in ElsaWeb (L/R)
Parts Manufacturer
Golf, Passat
WWO 2)
Jetta, Jetta Sportwagen, Beetle, Beetle Convertible,
3ME 2)
Passat
Labor Operation 3) : Remove and Install Engine Wiring Harness (CKRA)
97521933 = 290 TU
Labor Operation 3) : Remove and Install Engine Wiring Harness (Gen 3 CVCA)
97521905 = 420 TU
Jetta, Jetta Sportwagen, Golf, Beetle, Beetle Convertible
Labor Operation 3) : Remove and Install Engine Wiring Harness
97521933 = 330 TU
2015 Golf
Labor Operation 3) : Remove and Install Engine Wiring Harness (Gen 3)
97521905 = 290 TU
Causal Part: Engine Harness
03L 971 *** (See ETKA)
Diagnostic Time 4)
GFF Time expenditure
01500000 = 60 TU max.
YES
Road Test
01210004 = 10 TU
YES
Technical Diagnosis
(Includes wiring harness checks)
01320000 = 120 TU max.
YES
Claim Comment: Input “As per Technical Bulletin(###) ###-#### ***** comment section of Warranty Claim.
1) Vehicle may be outside any Warranty in which case this Technical Bulletin is informational only
2) Code per warranty vendor code policy.
3) Labor Time Units (TUs) are subject to change with ELSA updates.
4) Documentation required per Warranty Policies and Procedures Manual.
Required Parts and Tools
Part No:
Part Description
Quantity
03L 905 061G
Glow Plug
As required
03L 971 *** (See ETKA)
Engine Harness
As required
Tool Description
Tool No:
Midtronics Battery Tester/Charger
InCharge 940 (INC-940)
or
GRX3000VAS
VAS Diagnostic Tool
VAS 6150/X & VAS 6160/X with
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Billy