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Vw Passat: running rough..topped..2 cylinders have no compression

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OK, so the vw Passat was running rough...mechanic checked oil, it was low so he topped it off. Next day, even worse. Took it in and found 2 cylinders have no compression. He can find no reason for the failure, and doesnt know what to fix...reccomends new engine. I've been been researching the car and found innumerable complaints regarding oil sludge. Could this be our problem? Is it too late having already lost compression? car ran, roughly, on 3 cylinders, but now won't start. Will de-sludging solve this? Maybe?
Submitted: 3 years ago.
Category: VW
Expert:  VWDoc replied 3 years ago.

If the sludge problem has gone on long enough, and is severe enough, then yes, this could eventually lead to cylinder/piston damage. This is due to low oil pressure caused by sludge deposits in the screen of the oil pump pickup tube. Usually, however, there are initial warnings, such as an oil pressure or "STOP ENGINE" light. At this point, a sludge repair job will not restore lost compression, as the damage is already done.

 

However, it's really best to get a second opinion by someone very familiar with late-model Volkswagens. I can only offer advice by the information given to me. I could be a lot more specific if I were able to lay my hands on it, so to speak. Definitely worth researching your area for a good independent European/VW shop.

Customer: replied 3 years ago.
He stopped driving car when STOP ENGINE light came on, at that point, when he had it brought in, only one cylinder was down. During the course of trying to diagnose the problem, a day in the shop, the other cylinder failed. I guess i want to know if the no compression thing is a kiss of death...or have you heard of this being reversed with de-sludging?
Expert:  VWDoc replied 3 years ago.

Usually when I get A4s and Passats with 1.8T's in with sludge problems, I can typically correct the problem before it gets too far. Normally, the first sign is a mechanical rattle at idle when the engine coolant and oil are both at operating temperature. The noise comes from the timing chain tensioner at the rear of the cylinder head. This tensioner is actuated by oil pressure, and is the furthest component from the oil pump, so it's the first part to "complain". However, once we get to compression loss, there is significant cylinder/piston ring damage, and de-sludging will not bring this back.

 

Still, if the car were in my shop, I would definitely pull all spark plugs and run a borescope into the cylinders to be absolutely sure.

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