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How can i remove the lock cylinder from the ignition housing

Customer Question

How can i remove the lock cylinder from the ignition housing for my 1999 jetta?
Submitted: 5 years ago.
Category: VW
Expert:  marcpod replied 5 years ago.

Here is the procedure . If you need anything just let me know.

Steering column, assembly

WARNING:Special safety precautions and some different procedures apply to vehicles equipped with airbags
CAUTION:Before working on the electrical system:
Obtain radio anti-theft code.
Ignition OFF !
Disconnect battery Ground (GND) strap.
Note: After reconnecting battery: Activate vehicle equipment such as radio, clock and power windows as per service procedures and/or Owner's Manual.
On vehicles equipped with OBD II, activate readiness code. Refer to Powertrain Management, Computers and Control Systems, Testing and Inspection, Procedures See: Powertrain Management\Computers and Control Systems\Testing and Inspection

For further information on the steering column assembly, refer to Steering and Suspension, Steering, Steering Column, Service and Repair See: Steering Column\Service and Repair\Steering Column Tube & Steering Wheel, Servicing

1.-Horn pad

  • Removing, Fig. 1

2.-Horn plate

  • Removing, Fig. 2

3.-50 ±10 Nm (37 ±7 ft lb)
4.-Steering wheel

  • Horn contact ring, Fig. 3
  • Lubricate horn ring with universal grease

5.-Steering column switch securing screws
6.-Combination switch

  • Turn signal switch. -E2-
  • Headlight dimmer/flasher switch -E4-
  • Emergency flasher switch -E3-
  • Removing, Fig. 4

7.-Windshield wiper/washer switch -E22-

  • Removing, Fig. 4

8.-Upper steering column trim
9.-Lower steering column trim
10.-Steering column
11.-Support ring
12.-Steering lock housing securing bolt

  • Shear bolt

13.-Steering lock housing

14.-Ignition/starter switch -D-

  • To remove, first remove steering lock housing, then remove securing screws

15.-Lock cylinder

  • Removing/installing, Fig. 5

16.-Spring
17.-Clamping washer


Fig. 1 Horn pad, removing

WARNING! Vehicles with airbags, refer to Service Precautions

Vehicles without airbag

  • Lift horn pad at bottom and pull from steering wheel in direction of arrow.
  • Remove horn wire.


Fig. 2 Horn plate, removing

  • Remove wire connector from horn plate.
  • Disengage retaining lugs -arrows- and remove contact plate -A- from contact plate -B-.

Note: The horn plate consists of two non insulated contact plates. Horn operates when the horn pad is pressed and plate -A- contacts plate -B- .


Fig. 3 Horn contact ring
The battery positive voltage (B+) for horn operation is supplied via a spring contact on the turn signal switch and a contact (slip) ring -arrow- under the steering wheel.


Fig. 4 Turn signal switch -E2- and windshield wiper/washer switch -E22-, removing


Fig. 5 Lock cylinder, removing and installing

Removing

Dimension -b- = 10 mm (25/64 in.)

  • Drill 3 mm (1/8 in.) diameter hole into steering lock housing at mark until lock cylinder stop spring is visible. Hole depth: approx. 3 mm (1/8 in.)
  • Compress stop spring using opposite end of drill and pull out lock cylinder.

Installing

  • Insert lock cylinder into steering lock housing.
  • Insert key into lock cylinder.
  • Push lock cylinder fully into housing while gently turning key.

Steering column switches, connector wiring

Steering Column Switches, Connector Wiring

A.Ignition/starter switch -D-

  1. Ignition/starter switch -D-, terminal 15 (B+ with key on)
  2. Ignition/starter switch -D-, terminal X (B+ with key on)
  3. Ignition/starter switch -D-, terminal 50
  4. Ignition/starter switch -D-, terminal 30 (B+)
  5. Ignition/starter switch -D-, terminal SU
  6. Ignition/starter switch -D-, terminal P

B.Connector, 5-point

  1. Windshield wiper/washer switch -E22-, terminal 53b
  2. Windshield wiper/washer switch -E22-, terminal 53a
  3. Windshield wiper/washer switch -E22-, terminal 53
  4. Windshield wiper/washer switch -E22-, terminal 53e
  5. Windshield wiper/washer switch -E22-, terminal J

C.Connector, 5-point

  1. Emergency flasher switch -E3-,terminal 49
  2. Headlight dimmer/flasher switch -E4-, terminal 56b
  3. Headlight dimmer/flasher switch -E4-, terminal 56
  4. Headlight dimmer/flasher switch -E4-, terminal 56a
  5. Headlight dimmer/flasher switch -E4-, terminal 30 (B+)

D.Connector, 4-point

  1. Windshield wiper/washer switch -E22-, terminal L
  2. Windshield wiper/washer switch -E22-, terminal T
  3. Windshield wiper/washer switch -E22-, terminal 31 (GND)
  4. Emergency flasher switch -E3-, terminal 15 (B+ with key on)

E.Connector, 7-point

  1. Horn button, terminal 71
  2. Emergency flasher switch -E3-, terminal 49a
  3. Turn signal switch -E2-, terminal L
  4. Parking light switch -E19-, terminal PL
  5. Parking light switch -E19-, terminal P
  6. Parking light switch -E19-, terminal PR
  7. Turn signal switch -E2-, terminal R
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
The instructions given is apparently for a manual Transmission. My jetta has an automatic tranny and thus the housing is different. Do you have instructions for the housing with the auto tranny application? Or maybe the instruction is for an earlier year and not the 99 with automatic transmission which is mine.
Expert:  marcpod replied 5 years ago.
This is the same for both models.
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
The housing shown in your diagram and the one that I have for my 1999 automatic tranny Jetta are completely different so that I have no line of reference as to where to drill the hole.
Expert:  marcpod replied 5 years ago.

Can you give me the engine size?

Customer: replied 5 years ago.
Engine is 2.0.
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
Check this site for a photo of the housing: http://www.carpartswholesale.com/include s/secure/popup.php?type=more&image=aHR0cDovL2Nwd3N0b3JlLmNhcnBhcnRzd2hvbGVzYWxlLmNvbS9jYXRhbG9nL2ltYWdlcy9wcm9kaW1hZ2UvaW1hZ2VzL1dPUkxEUEFDL1cwMTMzMTYwODE2NU9FUy5KUEc=&title=T0VTIEdlbnVpbmUgSWduaXRpb24gTG9jayBIb3VzaW5n&text=
Expert:  marcpod replied 5 years ago.

No I can't see it. Is this a square kind of column.

Customer: replied 5 years ago.
Try this site and see if you can see it: http://cpwstore.carpartswholesale.com/catalog/details/Volkswagen/Jetta/OES_Genuine/Ignition_Lock_Housing/1999/GLS/4_Cyl_2-dot-0L/W0133-1608165.html
Expert:  marcpod replied 5 years ago.

This is it right here.

Ignition/starter Switch and Lock Cylinder, Removing And Installing

Ignition/starter Switch, Removing And Installing

CAUTION!

  • Before beginning repairs on the electrical system:
  • Obtain the anti-theft radio security code.
  • Switch off all electrical consumers.
  • Switch the ignition off and remove the ignition key.
  • Disconnect negative (-) battery terminal.
  • When disconnecting and reconnecting battery terminals, observe all applicable Notes and torque specifications, as well as instructions on performing OBD program and electrical system function checks.

Removing

  • Disconnect battery.
  • Remove steering column switches.
  • Disconnect electrical connector from ignition/starter switch.

  • Remove locking paint on securing screws -A-.
  • Loosen two securing screws -A- slightly and pull ignition/starter switch out from steering lock housing in direction of -arrow-

Installing

  • Push ignition/starter switch into steering lock housing.

NOTE:

  • When installing the ignition/starter lock switch ensure that the ignition/starter lock switch and the lock cylinder are in the same position, e.g "ignition on".
  • Tighten securing screws and seal with locking paint.
  • Connect electrical connector to ignition/starter switch.
  • Reinstall steering column switch and steering wheel.
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
This is the instruction to remove and install the ignition/starter switch which I have no problem with. I have done that already. What I need to do is to remove the ignition lock cylinder from the housing. The lock cylinder is the part where the ignition key is incerterd. I believe that we just have to find where to drill the hole to release it. The new diagram does show the correct housing but we just need to find how to get the cylinder out and I believe that the balance of the stuff in the housing will come out as well as I am just trying transfer parts from one housing to the other.
Expert:  marcpod replied 5 years ago.

Ok gotta ya. Let me look. This shows a rod that you need to disengage the lock cylinder.

CAUTION!

  • Before beginning repairs on the electrical system:
  • Obtain the anti-theft radio security code.
  • Switch off all electrical consumers.
  • Switch the ignition off and remove the ignition key.
  • Disconnect negative (-) battery terminal.
  • When disconnecting and reconnecting battery terminals, observe all applicable Notes and torque specifications, as well as instructions on performing OBD program and electrical system function checks

Removing

  • Disconnect battery.
  • Remove steering column switches.

  • Where applicable, carefully disconnect electrical connection for the induction coil for anti-theft immobilizer from lock cylinder.

NOTE:

  • If equipped, the induction coil for anti-theft immobilizer is integrated with the lock cylinder and cannot be serviced separately.
  • Insert ignition key in lock cylinder and turn to position "Drive".

Position of key in lock cylinder:

1-Position "Stop"
2-Position "Drive"
3-Position "Start"

  • Insert steel wire (approx. dia. 1.2 mm ) in drilling next to ignition key -arrow-.

NOTE:

  • To enable steel wire to be inserted straight into hole, ignition key may have to be dismantled and inserted into lock cylinder without key head.
  • Dismantle ignition key if necessary.

  • Release lock cylinder securing lever using wire -arrow- and remove lock cylinder from steering lock housing.

1-Lock cylinder
2-Steel wire (approx. dia. 1.2 mm )
3-Securing lever

Installing

  • Insert ignition key in lock cylinder and turn to position "Drive".
  • Release securing lever using wire (approx. dia. 1.2 mm ) and insert lock cylinder in steering lock housing.

NOTE:

  • Where applicable, ensure immobilizer induction coil electrical connection orientation in lock cylinder housing guide.
  • Pull wire out of lock cylinder and ensure lock cylinder is secured properly in steering lock housing.

  • Reconnect immobilizer reading coil electrical connector -arrow- to lock cylinder.
  • Install steering column switches and steering wheel.

 

 

Customer: replied 5 years ago.
I want to thank you but I got the info yesterday from a local mechanic friend of mine and the problem has been resolved long before you presented the correct info.

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