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Thanks for your question regarding Cheyletiella in your Dalmations
How long have they had this please?
Have they had this particular mite confirmed via microscopy?
Are you there?
Cheyletiella is typically a rabbit fur mite - but can definitely affect dogs
There are several products on the market that will deal with this no problem
I would definitely recommend applying Advocate treatment to each of them as well as getting the house sorted as well
Sometimes we even have to use dips we use for more difficult mites such as sarcoptic and demodectic mange
have you used any treatments on them thus far?
Hi,My mother has, unfortunately, been infested and has just come out of hospital after losing significant weight
and it was definitely cheyletiella mites?
aka 'walking dandruff'?
If you haven't had the infestation confirmed - ideally you would have this done at your local Vet where they can take a skin scraping or sellotape impression off the skin to check the mites under the microscope
Regardless of the type of mite however, you can use Advocate on both dogs effectively and this deals with demodectic and sarcoptic mange as well as the cheyletiella
So definitely get this on them asap - you can get it over the counter at your local Vet clinic
The skin scrapings are currently being analysed but the doctors feel there may be some mileage in the research she has taken with her. Also, I have seen these thing popping in and out of her fingers - very bizarre. As they feed on glandular secretions, she has lost lots of weight and become quit poorly. One of the mites has been seen by a professor (vet) who is unable to identify
They are usually pretty easy to identify
Hopefully we get a definitive answer soon
Regardless - you should treat both dogs asap
As well as the house
Wash all bedding and discard brushes and combs. Vacuum carpets and upholstery thoroughly and repeatedly and spray the house with a flea premise spray.
Treat each dog with advocate monthly ongoing
Keep your mum away from them as we don't want her getting reinfested
And you need to be careful yourself also
If we aren't making much headway with the advocate, then they may need to be treated with an off license injection - ivermectin
She has also had significant dandruff and is coughing up very strange 'granules' that look like pupae cases. She has treated the house up and down and I think she has already used advocate but I'll just check. She has isolated the dogs as there is obviously cross contamination - she feels nobody is listening
Or they may need several shampoos in amitraz (a drug that kills all mites)
I know - it must be a very awkward situation
If possible keep the dogs completely out of the house
For at least 2 - 3 weeks (and away from her also)
She asked for ivermectin but the vets won't prescribe as they can't identify the mite. How are humans treated?
You may need to get professionals in to 'flea bomb' the entire house if there can be a day where everyone (including all animals) can get out of it for 10 - 12 hours
That's a good question
i'm not sure sorry
one for the doctors on the site I guess!!
Ivermectin would have to be one of the last things we use
because it isn't licensed - by law all the other licensed products have to be tried first
Annoying I know - however ivermectin does have some pretty significant side effects with it at times
I think if she is already using advocate and there has been no significant improvement, then they may have to begin with weekly amitraz baths and they may even need to be fully clipped.
If the mite are living intra nasally will stronghold get rid of them
It would be very rare for them to live intra nasally
I have never heard of that
If advocate didn't seem to be helping - I would recommend Promeris Duo
This has amitraz in it also and is very effective against mites
Are you saying a good vet should be able to identify cheyletiella?
The eggs are shed into the environment - so I think getting professionals in to sort the house out would be a good idea
It depends on the sample they have
If they have a good view of a typical mite
then usually it is fine
However there are times when it is hard to tell
I often send slides to the lab for confirmation
Can I send samples for you to analyse
You would be best getting them sent to a lab
Here they can give a definitive diagnosis
Your Vet should be able to organise that pretty easily for you
How is promeris duo administered
Just like advocate
a liquid applied to the back of the neck
A lot less of a hassle than attempting the amitraz baths
Can I get it in the uk?
Yes - I use this quite often
It has been very effective for several cases
You sound like a good vet! Are you based in Yorkshire. How soon can this be used after spot on?
Thanks! I'm based down south. You need to wait until they are next due for a spot on
Once treated and cleared, will the dogs get it again?
Hopefully not - particularly if you continue with advocate or promeris duo ongoing
So long as the house is sorted out and your mum is clear
The dogs are head tilting and sneezing - are these normal symptoms? They have lost some weight.
You can read some more basic info regarding other possible treatments and prognosis here: http://www.provet.co.uk/health/diseases/cheyletiella.htm
Not typical of cheyletiella no
They may have something else going on
Cheyletiella will typically only cause skin problems in dogs
I hope this has been helpf
Please let me know how things progress with them both
Get a sample away to an independent vet lab if you can
and start on advocate or promeris duo
I look forward to hearing about how they get on
Interesting and many thanks for your help. Have you got contact details for a lab?
It depends on who your Vets use
I use Axiom Vet laboratories
So you could request that one if you wished
How do I get back in touch with you?
Just reply back to this post in the future
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You can reply whenever and I will endeavour to get in touch within a day or so
Ok, thanks for your help.