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I'm from Cyprus, and just received a Contractual Parking

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I'm from Cyprus, and just received a Contractual Parking Charge Notice. I was renting a car at the time and this notice was sent to Europcar. They have notified G24, to whom the charge notice is from, that I was the primary driver at the time.
As we have free parking in Cyprus and I was completely unaware there was any time limit in parking at this Retail Park, where we spent some time looking round it all, do I have to pay this £85.00 + a further £35.00 to Europcar for sending me this notice? It states on the Charge notice that parking was free for 180mins and they say we left after 280mins. We actually moved the car from one end of the very large retail park to another between times to avoid having to walk with a large amount of shopping.
Submitted: 10 months ago.
Category: UK Traffic Law
Expert:  Jo C. replied 10 months ago.

Hello were there signs advising you of the parking restrictions?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Not that I was aware of
Expert:  Jo C. replied 10 months ago.

Have Europcar paid it or referred the fine to you?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
They have referred the fine to me and also added their admin charge for doing this.
Expert:  Jo C. replied 10 months ago.

What are their admin charges?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
EuRopcar are charging me £36.00 and G24 Ltd wish £85.00
Expert:  Jo C. replied 10 months ago.


Do Europcar have your debit card details?

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Expert:  Jo C. replied 10 months ago.

The problem with this is that they will almost certainly just deduct the funds from your card. The contract that you have with them will allow them to do something like that.

Private land fines are generally very difficult to enforce and not cost effective especially not if a debtor is abroad.

£35 is entirely unreasonable for the admin here.

You could sue them to recover but that is hard to do from abroad as well.

Expert:  Jo C. replied 10 months ago.

Can I clarify anything for you?


Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Please...your advice is to do what regarding the PCN? Is it indeed legal to charge this? Is it forceable under the law?
Expert:  Jo C. replied 10 months ago.

Yes, it is legal. Private land fines have always been lawful. They were just hard to enforce.

the problem here is that isn't the issue. The issue is that Europcar have taken over the claim for the reasons above.

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
Europcar have only invoiced me for the admin letter sent to me and to respond to the PCN. They state clearly that the notice is now in my name and any disputes regarding the notice itself must be referred directly to the issuing body, G24.
Expert:  Jo C. replied 10 months ago.

If they are not going to deduct it then the chances that the private land company will sue are very low especially if you are permanently in Cyprus.

Customer: replied 10 months ago.
I have just spoken to Europcar who say their admin charge is part of the agreement I signed with them so I assume thats set in stone. They also informed me that they do not have an agreement with G24 Ltd to pay any fine on behalf of a rentee. They also stated I have to wait for a letter from G24 Ltd to come to me in Cyprus. Do I have to respond to G24 Ltd or not if I get any correspondence from them?
Expert:  Jo C. replied 10 months ago.

Well, it depends. There might be challenge to that but the reality is that they will just deduct and it isn't worth suing from Cyprus.

I would just ignore G24 Ltd. They are not going to sue in Cyprus.