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I have had my Car and HGV licences revoked due to the results of a sleep study back in 2005 yes 7 years ago, this only came to light after i had my medical for my hgv renewal in Feb of 2012I have only recently recieved the notification of the revoking of my car and hgv licence but there is no mention of my motorcycle licenceThe sleep disorder is that on occassions i wake during the night due to loud snoring caused through the closure of my wind pipe. this is on rare occassions.the reason for the revoking states that i have a disorder which causes sleepiness during the day ( i do not have this at all)I have also been refered again to the hospital due to there now being a lost file at the doctors regarding the results in 2005 which had never been communicated to me although my own gp has a copy of a letter on file recieved from the hospital.I have now had the new sleep study but have to wait until uly 24th for the results, my question is can i still ride my motor cycle ??
HiThank you for your question and welcome to Just Answer. I will try to help with this. Please RATE my answer OK SERVICE or above.Have you asked the DVLA if you are still able to drive the motorcycle?
no i havnt to be honest as i did not recive any notification regarding my bike licence i assumed i was still ok to ride but not to drive a car or hgv
Ok.How did this come to the attention of the DVLA?
DVLA had been informed on my medical report completed by my GP and then sent in by myself which formed part of the appliction in the renewal of my HGV licence which had been due to my 55th birthday.
They had not been informed of this prior to this medical, i had not been informed of this prior to the medical
The diagnosis had been made in 2005
Ok.What did the DVLA send you? Usually they send you written notification and usually its pretty clear what you can or cannot drive?
2 notifications
1 for HGV
1 for Car Licence
i can send these if you wish
Can you scan and paste them into a post?
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Driver and Vehicle Licensing AgencyDrivers Medical GroupSwansea SA99 lDFPhone: 0300(NNN) NNN-NNNNFax: XXXXXXXXXXX /p>Email:
Drivers Medical Group
Swansea SA99 lDF
Phone: 0300(NNN) NNN-NNNNFax: XXXXXXXXXXX /p>Email:
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Website:
www.direct.gov.uk/driverhealth
Mr Stanley David Ball
151 Calvers
Halton Brow
RUNCORN
WA72EW
Driver No: BALL9501067SD9PF
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• Dear Mr Ball,
We have received information about your fitness to drive and we recommend that you should not
drive.
This means
that we must refuse your application for a lorry/bus driving licence and we will revokeyour car driving licence on 12 June 2012. Please return your driving licence (both the phorocardand paper counterpart if you have a photocard licence) to the address above. If you have alreadyreturned your driving licence you do
we must refuse your application for a lorry/bus driving licence and we will revokeyour car driving licence on 12 June 2012. Please return your driving licence (both the phorocardand paper counterpart if you have a photocard licence) to the address above. If you have alreadyreturned your driving licence you do
your car driving licence on 12 June 2012. Please return your driving licence (both the phorocard
and paper counterpart if you have a photocard licence) to the address above. If you have already
returned your driving licence you do
not need to take any further action.We enclose an information letter that explains in more detail the reason for your application anddriving licence being revoked/refused.If you
any further action.We enclose an information letter that explains in more detail the reason for your application anddriving licence being revoked/refused.If you
We enclose an information letter that explains in more detail the reason for your application and
driving licence being revoked/refused.
If you
object 10 this decision you may be able to appeal to your local Magistrates' Court within 6
6
months if you live in England or Wales or
10 your local Sheriff Court within 21 days of the dale ofthis notice if you live in Scotland.
your local Sheriff Court within 21 days of the dale ofthis notice if you live in Scotland.
this notice if you live in Scotland.
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you decide [0 appeal you must first tell us The !..11V: Section JCC ottb« Rood Trsttic Act 1988. Ru/~ 2.6 (1) ot the Act uf Sakrun: (Summery Applicuion, S{;Jrufl)fy Applir.:;JfionsIN
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in writing that you are going to do so. You may wishto seek independent legal advice. Letter 2 Dear Mr Ball,With this letter is a formal notification advising you that your (Group 2) Lorry or Busdriving licence has been revoked or an application for such an entitlement has been refused.Thisleuer is to explain the medical reason for the decision.(!)Our enquiries have confirmed that you are suffering from a medical condition, whichcurrentlyis causing excessive daytime sleepiness. It is likely therefore, that you would be asource of danger were you to drive. Once the condition is controlledsatisfactorily and yourdoctors can confirm this, you may re-apply.Ifyou wish to discuss this matter with your GP you will need to take this letter to showhim/her as your doctor may not have been informed of this decision.• When you are eligible to re-apply. you should complete an application form D2. This isavailable from DVLA Local Offices or DVLA Swansea. You will also need to fill in anappropriate medical questionnaire, which can be downloaded fromwww.direct.gov.co.uk/driverhealthr-Alternatively, if you want us to send you the forms, including the appropriate medicalquestionnaire, please telephone 0300(NNN) NNN-NNNN You can re-apply upto 8 weeks in advanceof your likelyre-qualification date to enable up to date medical enquiries to start. However,we will be unable to indicate when a re-licensing decision will be made as this will dependon the medical information DVLA needs to obtain and consider.Please note: you should not re-apply if you have any other medical condition thatwouldbar you from bus or lorry driving. After re-applying you will not have entitlementto drive your bus or lorry until a final decisionis made about the re-issue of this licence.Ifyour General Practitioner or Specialist can provide any additional information about yourcondition that shows, in their view, that you can meet the required medical standards,please forward the information
to seek independent legal advice.
Letter 2
Dear Mr Ball,
With this letter is a formal notification advising you that your (Group 2) Lorry or Bus
driving licence has been revoked or an application for such an entitlement has been refused.
This
leuer is to explain the medical reason for the decision.
explain the medical reason for the decision.
(!)
Our enquiries have confirmed that you are suffering from a medical condition, which
currently
is causing excessive daytime sleepiness. It is likely therefore, that you would be asource of danger were you to drive. Once the condition is controlled
asource of danger were you to drive. Once the condition is controlled
source of danger were you to drive. Once the condition is controlled
satisfactorily and yourdoctors can confirm this, you may re-apply.
and yourdoctors can confirm this, you may re-apply.
doctors can confirm this, you may re-apply.
If
you wish to discuss this matter with your GP you will need to take this letter to showhim/her as your doctor may not have been informed of this decision.• When you are eligible to re-apply. you should complete an application form D2. This isavailable from DVLA Local Offices or DVLA Swansea. You will also need to fill in anappropriate medical questionnaire, which can be downloaded from
need to take this letter to showhim/her as your doctor may not have been informed of this decision.• When you are eligible to re-apply. you should complete an application form D2. This isavailable from DVLA Local Offices or DVLA Swansea. You will also need to fill in anappropriate medical questionnaire, which can be downloaded from
him/her as your doctor may not have been informed of this decision.
• When you are eligible to re-apply. you should complete an application form D2. This is
available from DVLA Local Offices or DVLA Swansea. You will also need to fill in an
appropriate medical questionnaire, which can be downloaded from
www.direct.gov.co.uk/driverhealth
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Alternatively, if you want us to send you the forms, including the appropriate medical
questionnaire, please telephone 0300(NNN) NNN-NNNN You can re-apply up
to 8 weeks in advanceof your likely
8 weeks in advanceof your likely
of your likely
re-qualification date to enable up to date medical enquiries to start. However,we will be unable to indicate when a re-licensing decision will be made as this will dependon the medical information DVLA needs to obtain and consider.Please note: you should not re-apply if you have any other medical condition thatwould
start. However,we will be unable to indicate when a re-licensing decision will be made as this will dependon the medical information DVLA needs to obtain and consider.Please note: you should not re-apply if you have any other medical condition thatwould
we will be unable to indicate when a re-licensing decision will be made as this will depend
on the medical information DVLA needs to obtain and consider.
Please note: you should not re-apply if you have any other medical condition that
would
bar you from bus or lorry driving. After re-applying you will not have entitlementto drive your bus or lorry until a final decision
you from bus or lorry driving. After re-applying you will not have entitlementto drive your bus or lorry until a final decision
to drive your bus or lorry until a final decision
is made about the re-issue of this licence.
made about the re-issue of this licence.
condition that shows, in their view, that you can meet the required medical standards,
please forward the information
to me as soon as possible. Letter 3
me as soon as possible.
Letter 3
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the decision.
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of Specialists advice that driving ceases until
control. is established. You may re-apply oncethis has been achieved.
is established. You may re-apply oncethis has been achieved.
this has been achieved.
you wish to discuss this matter with your GP you will need to take this letter to showhim/her as your doctor may not have been informed of this decision.
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send you the forms,including the appropriate medical questionnaire, please telephone 0300(NNN) NNN-NNNN You canre-apply up
including the appropriate medical questionnaire, please telephone 0300(NNN) NNN-NNNN You can
re-apply up
to 8 weeks in advance of your likely re-qualification date to enable up to datemedical enquiries to start. However, we will be unable to indicate when are-licensingdecision will be made as this will depend on the medical information DVLA needs to obtainand consider .
8 weeks in advance of your likely re-qualification date to enable up to datemedical enquiries to start. However, we will be unable to indicate when are-licensingdecision will be made as this will depend on the medical information DVLA needs to obtainand consider .
medical enquiries to start. However, we will be unable to indicate when are-licensing
decision will be made as this will depend on the medical information DVLA needs to obtain
and consider .
would bar you from driving a car.
drive your car
until a final decision is made about the re-issue of this licence.If your General Practitioner or Specialist can provide any additional information about yourcondition that shows, in their view. that you can meet the required medical standards,please forward the information to me as soon as possible .
a final decision is made about the re-issue of this licence.If your General Practitioner or Specialist can provide any additional information about yourcondition that shows, in their view. that you can meet the required medical standards,please forward the information to me as soon as possible .
If your General Practitioner or Specialist can provide any additional information about your
condition that shows, in their view. that you can meet the required medical standards,
please forward the information to me as soon as possible .
I see what they've done but its not good news.I am sorry but they have revoked your car licence and refused your HGV licence. I'm really sorry but that would cover your bike licence as well although I have to say that I do think they should have made it clearer. Generally speaking if there are road safety issues then they will revoke all entitlements but I quite see why you found that ambiguous.You can appeal to the Magistrates Court though if you disagree with a decision of the DVLA and if this is a baseless decision then you should do so.Sorry thats probably not the answer you wanted but it is the position that you have and I have a duty to give you truthful and accurate information even though its not what I want to say.Please rate my answer with OK SERVICE or more and then I will continue for free.
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