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Hello, did the police see the text messages in question?
Why was he phoning you?
What is his connection to you? It would seem to be her problem.
Well, how did he get your number?
Do you think it might have been your wife?
Ok. Never get involved in your partner's issues. They are her problem not yours. All that ever happens is that you end up facing consequences and they walk away scot free. I don't know why men feel an obligation to sort out their partner's problems.
Whatever she told you, there is no such thing as verbal violence. The two things are in direct contradiction with each other. Verbal means something entirely difference to violence. If there was an adverse encounter then that is for her to sort out.
Unfortunately though you have sent this text and we will have to deal with that.
How long ago was that incident where she got you to send him that message?
The problem is that there will be a record of that and you do accept threatening violence. He is playing the victim but the point is that we are dealing with that.
You certainly are at risk of prosecution. He has only done this because you made a report and the two of you are only in dispute because of your wife. However, the plain fact remains that you did send a threatening text.
On your other question, you can give a statement on the point and it is priority crime but the reality is that if there are cross allegations and there is a record of his allegation and not of yours then the chances are fairly low. Even if he were charged this would be an obvious point to take in his defence.
Don't get involved in placing yourself at risk to protect your wife for the future. I realise that this doesn't help now but none of this would have happened to you if you had left her to it.
If your former partners start to harass you then you wouldn't get your wife to confront them. You should not be put in this position.
I understand. Not all women get their partners to sort out their disputes. Notice it is you that is at risk of a charge not her.
I have disputes all the time. I just don't place my husband at risk by getting him involved.
I understand that you feel an obligation to assist her and that men have been socialised to protect women but quite often I see law abiding men who end up in the dock because they were sorting out the disputes of a person who should be doing it themselves. Do not be one of them.
The phone company won't have a recording of the conversation. They don't record calls. They are not allowed to without notification under the DPA.
They will have a record that it was made but that is only probative if he is denying a phone call.
Don't be a hero. You just worry about you.
And never take much notice of allegations of abuse in previous relationships. You would be amazed at how weak they regularly are when you have sight of CRIS reports.
Good. You are the important person here not her. This is nothing to do with you and you are at risk.
If he is not denying a phone call then the record proves nothing except I suppose the duration of the call might be inconsistent with what he says was said.
One might cross examine on the point of why he is calling you at all but I suspect I know what the answer will be or at least what the risk is.
In fairness, if it is just one text threatening violence then it is probably only going to be a malicious communication which is not the worst offence and it might well lead to a caution or a fixed penalty but it is a shame you end up with anything at all.
I am sorry you are in this position.
Not sure what you mean?
If you mean what offence does it constitute then a public order maybe. It could be charged as a malicious communication but you cannot hide from the fact that it is not as serious and threatening violence.
Yes. I don't think there is much dispute over that.
Threats of violence are more serious than objectionable words.
I know why you did it and I understand and I know that you wouldn't have done it without her influence but you did and making threats of violence is an offence.
I think most people would agree that racial abuse is objectionable.
Making threats of violence, even when you are being incited, is a more serious offence.
I'm in the UK. I don't know anything about law elsewhere.
If you are hoping that anybody will be able to tell you that racial abuse, which are ultimately just words, is more serious than making a threat of actual violence then I'm afraid that cannot be done.
No, that is not what I said. Please see above.
I'm sorry and I do feel for you as I know that you would not have done this if you hadn't been put in this position.
No, it is not a fair justice system. The ways in which men offend are contrary to law. The ways in which women offend are not generally. This is why it looks, on the face of it, as though women commit very few offences of violence - they get men to do it for them.
But the issue is law not fairness and that is what we are dealing with.
The best hope you have is that the text you sent will be outside of six months. I cannot imagine they are going to start using more serious offences.
That said, obviously I haven't seen the message that you sent.
In terms of his phone call, you need to prove what was actually said.
the fact that they may prosecute you doesn't mean they won't prosecute him. They are two separate incidents.
I suppose you could sue him if the police won't prosecute although he could counter claim. Time limits are different when you sue.