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My paternal grandfather swore allegiance to King Edward the

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My paternal grandfather swore allegiance to King Edward the seventh on the 10th of March 1903. I have the original document in my possesion - will this document help me in obtaining Britisch Overseas Citizenship?
Submitted: 5 years ago.
Category: UK Immigration Law
Expert:  mikeotis036 replied 5 years ago.
Welcome, and thank you for your question.

This question mostly belongs in the UK Immigration Law category and I shall gladly refer you to one of the experts in that category. However, it also raises some secondary issues regarding your South African citizenship (if you have SA citizenship) that I would be happy to address, if you are interested, before referring the question.

Alternatively, I'll just refer you to the UK category for the main question. Please advise.

Yours faithfully,
Customer: replied 5 years ago.

Yes I am a South African Citizen by birth as is my father and grandfather (though originally from Irish desent), my grandfather was caught spying for the Boer Republics during the Anglo-Boer War and only his friendship with Lord Kitchener saved him from the firing squad - he was deported to the then "Duitswes Afrika" now Namibia, After the war her returned to South Africa and was only allowed into the country on condition that he pledged allegiance to King Edward VII. The document read as follow:


"Whereas, at the time of the outbreak of hostilities between the Government of Her late Majesty Queen Victoria and the Governments of the late South African Republic and the late Orange Free State, I, the undersigned, James Gilliland of Rustenburg, now residing at Rustenburg was a burgher of the South African Republic, and whereas the said South African Republic has been anned to and become part of, the dominions of His Masjesty King Edward the seventh; and whereas, I am desirous of formally claiming and securing all and sundry the rights and priviledges of a Brithish subject, which, by reason of the fact of annexation as foresaid, I am now justly entitled to do; Now, therefore, I herby formally declare that I acknowledge myself to be a subject of His Majesty King Edward the Seventh, and I do sincerely XXXXX XXXXX swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Most Gracious Majesty, King Edward the Seventh, His Heirs and Successors according to law. Sworn and declared before me at Rustenburg this 10th day of March 1903. "


The heading of the document :



No. 207




Hope this give more clarity


Kind Regards


Colleen Ebersohn


Customer: replied 5 years ago.

Please confirm that you have received my reply?


Kind Regards



Expert:  mikeotis036 replied 5 years ago.
My apologies for the delay.

As indicated in my initial information request, your proposed acquisition of citizenship of another country will have consequences for your South African citizenship. In this regard, section 6 of the South African Citizenship Act (88 of 1995) is relevant. Section 6(1) states that -
"a South African citizen shall cease to be a South African citizen if - (a) he or she, whilst not being a minor, by some voluntary and formal act other than marriage, acquires the citizenship or nationality of a country other than the Republic..."

Section 6(2) does provide for the retention of South African citizenship by applying to the Minister of Home Affairs for such retention by applying to the Minister prior to losing SA citizenship in terms of section 6(1).

It is therefore noteworthy that if you succeed in acquiring British Overseas Citizenship, you will automatically lose your South African citizenship unless you have applied for the retention of your SA citizenship and the Minister has ordered such retention.

Yours faithfully,
Customer: replied 5 years ago.
Relist: Inaccurate answer.
Please refer my question and reply to another atorney that can address my original question - will this document help me in obtaining a British Overseas Citizenship? I don't realy care about losing my South African citizenship or retaining it by asking special permission - that will be my desision if and when the time comes - I have definitely not come any closer to obtain an answer to my oroginal question
Expert:  mikeotis036 replied 5 years ago.
I'll request the website administrator to refer your question to the UK Law category.
Customer: replied 5 years ago.

Thank you Mike for the referal to the UK Law Catagory - I have yet to receive an answer from them Will keep my fingers crossed.




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