Hi, i have ford transit Model 90 T350. have a fuel problem. changed Heater plugs, Changed Injectors and changed Fuel injection pump. Still injectors fail to spray.Please asist. the ford is in Zambia and am really starndedBen
Country: United KingdomMake: FordModel: Transit 90 T350Year: 2005Engine: Duratok
changed heater plugs, injectors and fuel injection pump
Hello, I hope I can offer you some assistance.
Why did you replace the injectors and pump? Did you have the codes read from the engine management? Did the van just stop when you were driving it? Does the van have PATS (immobiliser) if so does the LED go off as it should?
Let me know and I'll reply as soon as I can.
we are in the bush here in zambia, a mechanic tested tested the heater plugs, they were not getting hot, so we changed. we also took out the injectors and re-connected them externally to see if they were spraying. they failed to spray. out of 4 only 1 was spraying - that not even full spray. so we replaced all the injectors. after fitting the new injectors, they were not spraying, so we changed the fuel injection pump. NOW still we have the same problem. the engine cranks, but does not start. the vehicle just stopped suddenly on the road whilst being driven. no, i dont think the vehicle has immobilsier.
we are in the bush here in zambia, a mechanic tested tested the heater plugs, they were not getting hot, so we changed. we also took out the injectors and re-connected them externally to see if they were spraying. they failed to spray. out of 4 only 1 was spraying - that not even full spray. so we replaced all the injectors. after fitting the new injectors, they were not spraying, so we changed the fuel injection pump. NOW still we have the same problem. the engine cranks, but does not start. the vehicle just stopped suddenly on the road whilst being driven. no, i dont think the vehicle has immobilsier. kindly if u have a telephone number number, i can call u. tnx
Hello again, sorry I forgot to ask, as this is a 90 I assume this is a TDDi and not a TDCi Is this correct? A TDCi engine will have electrical connectors on the injectors, a TDDi won't. Sorry it's against Just Answer site policy to give personal information so I can't give a number.
Hi Sean, on the engine cover it says Duratorq Di. can u call me on my number if u r not allowed to give out numbers. especially if we are in zambia and in the bush, there must be an exception!!!!! my number is +260 973 24 00 51
Hi Sean, on the engine cover it says Duratorq Di. can u call me on my number if u r not allowed to give out numbers. especially if we are in zambia and in the bush, there must be an exception!!!!! my number is +xxxxxxxxxxxxx
i just realised, it has an immobliser.
the red led keeps on flickering after we have turned the key to on position. technically the red led must swich off, no?
there are no electical connectors to the injectors
Hello again, the red immobiliser LED should be flashing with the ignition off. It should come on for 3 seconds when you turn the ignition on, then it should then go off. Is this what it is doing?
the red led flashes when the keys are out of ignition. after putting the keys in and turning them to II position, the led flicks more frequently and does not go off. all the other lights on the dash goes on with the II position.
the red LED lights does not stop flickering.
Hello again, the reason for the non start is the immobiliser is remaining active. Unfortunately the fuel injection pump on this model is part of the immobiliser system, when replaced the system needs to be reinitialized so that the pump can be "matched" to the engine management. The only way to initialize the pump is with suitable diagnostic equipment and access to the Ford PATS data codes. You may find that the reason the engine stopped originally was a fuel injection pump fault but until the immobiliser is sorted out the engine won't start. Also bear in mind that you will need to bleed the fuel system due to it been open and air getting in.
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but if I can assist any further let me know and I'll reply as soon as I can.
hi sean, so how do we go about it from here?
u said we need reinitialise the system, so how do we do this with vehicle being in zambia?
as i mentioned earlier, how do we reintialise the sysytem here in the bush?
is there any way of bypassing the immobilisation system and taking it complteely out altogether?
Hello again, the big problem is that the match is an electronic one. You need a suitable diagnostic tool for example Ford use IDS, with this you gain access to the immobiliser system, once you are in the system you can then instruct the system to reset again. There is no manual over ride to be able to reset or bypass the immobiliser, the immobiliser is integrated into the engine management control module and the electronic part of the fuel injection pump.
Depending on the equipment you have and what the original concern was with the fuel injection pump (mechanical or electrical) you may be able to swap the electronic part of the fuel pump from the old pump onto the replacement pump this will at least get rid of the immobiliser concern, unfortunately this means removing the pump again. When the pump is removed make sure the valve timing is still OK, there are special tools for this so I'm unsure what you used originally.
Let me know.
Ford Master Tech since 2001 & MOT tester mechanic since 1984.
How n where can we get a suitable diagnostic tool for example Ford use IDS, with which we can gain access to the immobiliser system, and can then instruct the system?
can we buy it or what?
Hello again, I know that Ford IDS discs are available via a well known action site, an example is here, www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-IDS-VCM-SOFTWARE-V77-1-2012-/320897829753?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4ab7004b79 if you have a laptop to install it on but you also need a Vehicle Communications Module (VCM) to be able to connect to the van, again these are available via the internet but these tend to be from the far east as the genuine Ford unit is cost prohibitive in your case. I assume that the nearest Ford dealer is a long way from you is this correct? There are other diagnostic tools to do this but again they tend to be cost prohibitive. Once you connect to the van it will give some data to input into the Ford Etis site which will then return your PATS incode. You need to register for access to Ford Etis which you should be able to do here, www.etis.ford.com/home/welcome.do
If not if you manage to obtain the details to input into Etis let me know and I should be able to get an incode for you, this will need to be done "live" as it were as the codes change at every request so if you give information and it's put into Etis later you will get an incorrect incode.
If I go offline I'll keep an eye out for your replies and come back to you as soon as I can.
Thanks fro yr reply.
As i am illitrate on these things, is it possible for u to order me this things and i can pay you for them. whatever items we need, u can just order them and am coming to uk on the 11th may then we can talk.
meanwhile if there is any chance of emailing me your contact details, it'll b helpfull.
Hello again, come back to me through this thread when you're in the UK and I'll try to assist further. I can't leave any personal details as I said previously it's against site policy.