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I am not sure what you mean by an order? I have a schedule of monthly payment from the CSA. They send me this once a year based on my tax return as a selfemployed person. The have taken into account that I have two children from my current marriage. I have just queried the education status of the 18 year old I am paying maintenance for and the say that his mother is still receiving child alowance and therfore he must still be in full time non-advanced education. I said OK then I will stop payinng in March next year. The advisor said maybe not because from the end of October the regulations change so that I have to keep paying until he turns 20 if he stays in this kind of education.
I don't know what you mean by an order. I pay a monthly amount. The CSA give me a schedule fo a year based on my tax return as a selfemployed person. They have taken into account the two children I have from my current marriage. I phoned the CSA to check the education status of the 18 year old and was told that his mother still receives child support payment so he must be in full time non-advanced education. I asid I wiuld stop paying on his 19th birthday and they said no. The new regulation comes into force at the end of October 2102 that I have to keep paying until he is 20 if he stays in this education
Some nonuniversity courses are advanced and some nonadvanced. Full-time for CSA purposes is 12 hours or more.
What exactly is the course?
I have no idea. I have not had contact with him or his mother for over 5 years except for a note in July from his mother to say that he was going on to a course in September 2012 and I would still be liable to pay for him. I phoned the CSA in September and they said that his mother was still entitled to claim child allowance for him which means, in their eyes his education qualifies for me to have to pay him and they spoke to his mother who confirmed that he was on a course. That is all the detail they would give me.
As I said in another reply -I don't know. I do not have contact. All I had was a note from his mother in July to say that he would be starting a course in September and I would be liable for his payments. I checked with the CSA in September. They said that his mother was still claiming child allowance and they telephoned her to confirm that he was on a course. In their books they are satisfied that he is still entitled to maintenance payments from me. They would not give me any more information and told me of the cahnge in regulation from 1 November 2102
I ran this past the colleague and for the time being, child benefit payment age and CSA payments age are different. The CSA age remains at 19.
There are moves afoot to change the CSA, aged 20 , but they are not yet implemented. Both the child benefit and CSA websites
reflect the above
Advanced education courses include: a degreeDiploma of Higher Education (DHE)NVQ level 4 or aboveBTEC Higher National Certificate (HNC) or Higher National Diploma (HND)teacher training 'Non-advanced' education includes the following: GCSEsA levelsNVQ/SVQ level 1, 2 or 3BTEC National Diploma, National Certificate and 1st DiplomaSCE higher grade or similar
I have been told over the telephone by the CSA today that the regulation changes from 1 November 2012. I will be liable to pay for non advanced education until age 20 years
I know it is going to increase but am not aware of the date.I admit to not having faith in anything CSA say. I have spent ages today ringing around colleagues and on the net and cannot find ref to that date. I would still want to know what the course is.
I hope this is not the truth. I have not had anything in writing and I have not heard anything in the media. As far as the course goes the CSA will not investigate further. They are satisfied with the combination of his mother's phone call and the fact that she is receiving child allowance for him. They have no inclination to give me any more details. What are my options now? To go to a private detective at great expense? I don't even know where they live and have no desire to speak to them as I nearly took out a harassment order against them five years ago because they kept on demanding more money over and above the CSA payments they were getting.
Please keep searching but tell me honestly what are the chances now of finding someone else?
I am not happy with that. I expected more
You are asking for confirmation of something that you have been told and we are unable to find confirmation of that from any source, which is why no one has answered. I have spoken to several colleagues and no-one has any knowledge of the change that you are talking about happening on 1 November. We cannot confirm or deny something if we do not have positive knowledge.
I would ask something in writing from CSA or ask for the particular regulation or statute which they refer to.
Your expert said that he had no faith in what the CSA say. I would have thought that an expert would know where to find the regulation from whichever goverment department these regulations emanate from. The CSA do not issue the regulations they only implement them and not very well at that.
I have contacted an agent. As this person is 18 and an "adult" I cannot approach a college to make enquiries as a parent. They will need to do surveilance at a cost of £45.00 per hour. This is too much for me. Is there any other way of finding out.
I have been able to find his address from the electoral register. I also know the course has something to do with lighting and sound for theatre.
Yes I have.
No. What will that acheive?
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