That can't be lawful, as they could be corrupt. I thought UK system was innocent until proven guilty
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HiThat is a matter for criminal law.Where family law is concerned the safety of children comes first.Any decisions by social workers can be challenged in the courts if necessaryClaire
25 years experience of all aspects of family law
So basically they have a license to do what they want. As I have read many cases in the national press, that the Judge always listens to the experts, who in turn are making loads of money. The parents don't get a say or fair decision. The whole thing sounds unlawful. but thanks for your help up to now.
HiNo they cannot do what they like - and I have successfully challenged a number of care applications - but you do need to show a willingness to co-operate once there has been an incident that has excited their attentionClaire
In 2003 A family, so called friend, abused my two step daughters. He worked alongside Social Services/CPS. When SS/CPS would seek a professional DR’s advice, they would pass already abused children to DR Robert Wells. Even though Dr Robert Wells had been arrested previously for Paedophilia, SS/CPS not only allowed him to operate within this position of trust, they fed his Evil.Also I grew up in care and had many bad experiences with SS, so I could enter in to an agreement with people I don't trust.
Here is the case with the DR I hope you understand my mistrust for the SS http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1464003/15-years-for-police-doctor-but-did-he-rape-other-girls.html
HII can fully understand your distrust of Social Services if you grew up in care - BUT sadly this just not change your current position.At THIS stage you are not being referred to any experts of this type - you are being asked to go on the kind of course where there is a great deal of talking therapy - and you can in fact find your own course by asking for a referral from your GP.In fact by doing this - sorting it out yourself - you will even enhance your standing in the eyes of Social Services making it a more positive experience all round.To achieve the result within a meaningful time table for your children you are going to work with the system from with in it - which does not mean that you cannot work it your way.#You can get help and support from www.frg.org.ukClairePS do NOT press accept again - there is no need
Hi, I understand your advice and thank you. It doesn't make sense why I have to give my time up, speak to a stranger and reveal parts of my private life, if I don't need a course. They also want me to inform on my partner, which in turn they seem to twist it. They have already split me and my X up as we have been scared of them taking the kids.
HiI am afraid that the Magna Carta has no relevance to the Children ActClaire
So this is unlawful? What I said is true? What's the point in having that clause in place? If the solicitors don't stand up for what's right to protect people from possible corruption?This is scary that bad people can operate without standing under this human right & that the Queen has sworn an oath to. Seems manipulated.This leaves child trafficking open to criminals, as the families can't get honourable representation?No wonder people feel like they live under a dictatorship and corruption within family law is corrupt and rife. solicitors should act for the people and be completely lawful. Thanks
HiNo I am afraid it is not unlawful.Magna Carta was a document drawn up 800 years ago - it was actually about the freedom of wealthy people and not the common man.If Care Proceedings are issued then you will have free legal aid and you will find that family lawyers do indeed fight the system - and win - but YOU as a parent will need to help your solicitor do that.Claire
thanks Claire, the clause maybe 800 years old but the clause still stands and is still used in criminal law to protect the common man and give a fair trial and this stops unjust decision. So this makes the experts in the Social services above the law of the land, we were all born as equals and no one should have the right to utilise their power of authority to destroy whom they wish too.thanks and I apologise for believing in this equality.
HiSocial Services are not above the law of the land - that is why it is the court than has the power to make Care Orders and not Social workers.However at the stage YOU are at independent experts are not involved and neither are the courts - and for your sanity try and keep it that way Claire
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