Hello, my name is XXXXX XXXXX it is my pleasure to assist you with your question today. What do you need these for, are you moving to a new employer?
i am thinking about it but not decided yet
It is true that if the employer has paid for the course then the training certificates would belong to them and will only be released with their consent. For example, if you were to contact the training provider and ask for a copy they could try and refuse by arguing that you are not the person who has paid for them and as such have no right to access them.
Whilst a subject access request is an option, I see you have already done this and they have released the data they hold about you - unfortunately that does not mean issuing a full certificate because that is simply they create by using the data they store on you and they do not have to provide you with that as long as they have disclosed the actual data held about you.
It does mean that the only way to get these is with the employer's consent or you can provide whatever evidence you have to a prospective employer to show you have undertaken the relevant training
so is there no other way to go about getting a copy of them ?
even with the cert numbers
you can try contacting the training providers and asking them to supply you with copies of these certificates but they could refuse without the employer's consent so if that happens, without that consent it would not be possible to obtain them
is there an argument that they are making me unemployable with out them ?
from a oral perspective yes, but that is not a legal offence, it is just an unfortunate outcome of this situation, it is still worth appealing to the employer's better nature by trying to leave on good terms and hope they will release these when you go
oral = moral
ok Ben Jones thanks for your help much appreciated think im best to stay with the company then .
only you can make that decision but do not be afraid of trying to get copies of these whilst employed by them and if successful - consider your options then
i will keep trying cheers mate
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will do cheers
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