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Because i was signed of work due to my mistreatment by management... and forced to work less hours during the relevant months used to calculate whether i was entitled to SMP can i get them done for this?
Thank you for your patience - I am just getting my advice ready and will post it on here shortly
If you were treated detrimentally because of your pregnancy then that would likely amount to discrimination, which is something you are protected against in law.
The test is whether you were treated less favourably because of your pregnancy when compared to other employees that were not pregnant. Therefore, bullying, victimisation, harassment, etc that you were subjected to as a result of being pregnant would amount to discriminatory conduct by the employer and the individual employees responsible for it.
If you were the victim of discrimination then you can consider taking legal action to seek compensation. The claim must be submitted within 3 months of the discriminatory act complained of, or the last in a series of discriminatory acts. If the bullying behaviour occurred more than 3 months ago then you can try and claim that their failure to give you SMP is just another in a series of discriminatory acts and use that as the date from which to count the time limit. In any event I would not advise that you delay this much longer if possible.
In addition to a claim for discrimination you can also consider resigning and making a claim for constructive dismissal. This should only be an option you pursue if you believe that this has now reached the last straw and you can no longer continue working there as a result of all that has happened. The same time limit to claim applies, in this case 3 months from date of resignation (you would not be expected to work your notice period).
Please let me know if this has answered your query or if you need me to clarify anything else for you in relation to this?
Hello, do you need any further advice on this issue?
Yes, recently last week i was handed my works maternity policy explaining how SMP works, do you know if i should have been handed this sooner?
i was given a maternity risk assessment months ago but only just received my maternity policy last week explaining in detail how things would be carried out, leaving me in the dark, my manager kept telling me she didn't know how it all worked and i feel as if she was intentionally misleading me
SMP is not a company policy issue, it is a matter of law and that is public knowledge and this would have been available for you at any time to view on the Government websites. If there were other issues that were specific to the maternity policy that were not applied then you can complain to the employer about that - the policy is there to be followed and failure by the employer to do so, especially if these were also their legal obligations towards a pregnant employee, can make them in breach
Regarding the letter... Why i cannot pay you SMP i received tuesday, its states i was paying Class 1b NI contributions, on my wage slips it says i paid, employee NIC & below Tax payed, on a Tax Code 512T
and that this may mean my employer may not have counted all of my earnings, and that i should ask them to recalculate my earnings as if i had been paying Class 1 NI contributions
i used Gov.UK to determine what i was entitled to there calculator based on my earnings during the "relevant period" to which it stated i was entitled to SMP
Were you given form SMP1?
Yes, and the box ticked was your earnings are to low
If you are really not eligible for SMP then you may be able to get Maternity Allowance and you can contact the DWP for that. If you believe that you have been wrongly told that you cannot get SMP the you can raise this with the employer first and then with HMRC
I believed my employers deliberately made my working life hell and cut my hours from 30 - 12 hours under my contracted hours, to force me out my job or for them to not pay me as much SMP or any SMP at all, as it all coincides with the relevant period from how SMP is calculated, what would you advise?
this takes me back to my advice above - if your hours were cut and as a result you are not eligible for SMP then that is not something that you can challenge with HMRC but you have to pursue the employer for the alleged discriminatory behaviour and that is when the potential sex/pregnancy discrimination claim comes in as well as the constructive dismissal if you believe you can no longer work there as a result
I have used GOV.UK maternity calculator for employers and used my pay for the relevant period, it says this employee is entitled to SMP and that you should pay your employer this amount, could i use this as the last straw to resign my job and make a case for discrimination previous to the 3 month period, also If i quit my job would i still be entitled to Maternity allowance ?
Try to challenge the employer's decision not to pay you SMP directly with them first but that could be used as a further discriminatory act on their part. You may still get MA if not currently employed as long as you satisfy the employment rule, which you can find here:
I have used my wage slips/invoice for the relevant months used to work out SMP, i did receive some holiday pay during these months because i was receiving much less hours then before and had bills to keep up with so i put Holidays through to help me keep up payments, i read that holiday pay does not affect the relevant period calculations and should be taken into account when adding up SMP, using this i was eligible for more money on SMP than i would receive from Maternity allowance
SMP will depend on your earnings during the relevant period of calculation. Holiday pay is just normal earnings and will be included in this calculation
Is Maternity allowance calculated using the same rules and "relevant period" as SMP is ?
no, the rules are different - MA deals with a test period and that is 66 weeks before your baby is due. Party of the eligibility criteria is that you must have earned an average of £30 a week over any 13 week period in the test period
I rang them to tell them that i thought there calculations was wrong, where i was told it can't be wrong, i insisted that it was wrong and she put me on hold for 10 mins, where she then picked up the phone and told me to call back Monday as the person who deals with this is not in, and that they might have been missing a week of the calculations, i then received a phone call shortly after and was told i am right on the boarder line to receive SMP but to call back Monday, So i'm assuming my manager give them the wrong information
they may have and by the looks of it they are still unsure themselves and a final decision has not been made
I've also noticed my manager had my due date down as the 25th when it is the 30th Aug, so she has "i think" intentionally wrote the wrong date is because she has my records, this makes a massive difference and whether or not i am entitled to SMP
it does not matter what they think or what they have written - the due date is set by medical records and the calculations will all depend on facts and figures that have already occurred so it is just a matter of correcting the errors and coming up with the final answer, which can only be one
I will be leaving the office in the next 20 mins or so and won't be back until Monday, is there anything else you need me to clarify before I go?
no that's fine thank you for your help Ben
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