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Have a transmission question. When first starting its Slow

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Have a transmission question. When first starting its Slow going into reverse and shifts REALLY HARSH between 2nd and 3rd. Then runs and shifts great after its warmed up.
Submitted: 9 months ago.
Category: Transmissions
Customer: replied 9 months ago.
Sorry it's a 02 camry 3.0 v6. Has 4 speed transmission.
Expert:  Andrew Martin replied 9 months ago.

Ok, have you checked the fluid level and condition?

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
The transmission oil was very clean when I bought it the owner said it was just flushed. We test drove it and shifted perfectly. So we bought it then the next morning went to drive it and would not go into reverse right away then the hard shifting between 2nd and 3rd. Now I know why he always wanted to meet him to see the car so it was warmed up. I took it to a local repair shop the said nothing they could find tested the solenoids said they serviced the oil and said it was good to go. Not the case! I dropped the pan and there was sludge on the magnets not thinking they really did anything but give me a bill. So to answer your question it is at the proper level and very clean.
Expert:  Andrew Martin replied 9 months ago.

Alright, when you dropped the pan did you change the filter and clean it all out good?

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
Yep
Customer: replied 9 months ago.
I have been driving it about 300 miles a week and a couple weeks ago the check engine like came on a with a p0770 code I cleared it and has not come on since.
Expert:  Andrew Martin replied 9 months ago.

Ok. Dirty fluid can cause these issues, and it can also cause that trouble code. Since you changed the fluid and the filter, there may not be a mechanical issue anymore. The transmission computer may just need to be reset. You can try disconnecting the battery and letting it stay disconnected for 30 minutes or so. If this doesn't work you'll have to bring it to the dealership for them to do it. If the reset does not work, it probably does need a shift solenoid.

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
I tried that already. No luck.
Expert:  Andrew Martin replied 9 months ago.

Alright. The solenoids can be electrically ok but could still be sticking, the P0770 refers to shift solenoid E. It is replaceable but it does involve digging into the transmission. If replacing the solenoid does not fix it, it may just be too gummed up inside to repair and will need to be replaced.

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
What do you mean by digging into the transmission? Is it on the outside or inside the pan? Do you know the part #?
Expert:  Andrew Martin replied 9 months ago.

The shift solenoids are attached to the valve body which is inside the transmission. You have to remove the pan, filter, and the valve body to change the solenoid. Part # *****(###) ###-####/p>

Expert:  Andrew Martin replied 9 months ago.

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Customer: replied 9 months ago.
Would that make sense to whyou its acting the way it is? Shifts hard when cold then fine when warmed up? Wouldn't it actually up all the time Ito were bad?
Expert:  Andrew Martin replied 9 months ago.

Yes it would make sense if it was sticking, once it gets hot the fluid is thinner and everything moves more easily.

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
Just making sure the part # ***** ***** an automatic transmission?
Expert:  Andrew Martin replied 9 months ago.

Yes manual transmissions do not have any solenoids. You may want to double check with the dealer with your VIN but that part is for a 2002 Camry v6 with a 4 speed

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
Can you send me a pic of all the bolts that need to be removed to drop the valve body?
Customer: replied 9 months ago.
This is a picture of my transmission.
Expert:  Andrew Martin replied 9 months ago.

Here are some pictures from the manual that should help

Expert:  Andrew Martin replied 9 months ago.

Remove the harness in the first picture and unplug the shift solenoids. Then remove the bolts indicated in this picture

Expert:  Andrew Martin replied 9 months ago.

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Customer: replied 9 months ago.
No problem. Good thing I'm observant the pic you sent didn't really help as the bolts are all different sizes and used a diagram with letters noting the different sizes. However you don't even have to drop the valve body just 2 bolts and it came right out. Gave it a good cleaning but still acting up. You must be a gm or ford guy I'm no transmission guy but it only takes one time of seeing it to know you don't have to remove the valve body would have saved be a lot of time. Thanks for the assistance.
Expert:  Andrew Martin replied 9 months ago.

Well I was going by the Toyota service manual.

Expert:  Andrew Martin replied 9 months ago.

I mean rate me like a star rating please

Expert:  Chris (aka- Moose) replied 9 months ago.

Welcome, I'm Chris (aka Moose). Experts aren't employees / agents of Just Answer. We are independent service providers using the Site to sell their Expert knowledge to Customers. I strive to provide EXCELLENT 5 STAR service, let me know what's needed from me so your pleased.

The prior tech has opted out, would you like me to try and help?

Expert:  Chris (aka- Moose) replied 9 months ago.

I like to stay in contact with my customers. I assume you were not pleased with me or my answer since you did not rate it leaving me feedback. Just so you know we can still work on this issue. We can pick up where we left off or start over. I hate you paid all that money for your question deposit and have left not satisfied. Would any diagrams or repair guides or a phone call help?.

Thanks Chris