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toyota: 4x4 light flashing on 2000 4 runner

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4x4 light flashing on 2000 4 runner
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: Toyota
Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
Thank you for trusting us with your Toyota question. Did this just suddenly start on its own, or is there anything that led up to it?
Customer: replied 1 year ago.

been acting up for the customer. im a shop. 4x4 lights flashed all the time no matter what position. put in the 3 switches on the t case. now the wheel indicators are green in 2x , supposed to be off and when switched to any 4x position thy flash

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
Remove the detent switch on the front differential and check it with an ohm meter. If that switch fails, you will get these symptoms.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.

youre talking the poppet switch on the front axle vac. motor correct?

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
Should be the only switch on the front axle.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.

switch retests fine. no matter where the lever or button is the vac is always applied to the pull side of the actuator

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
That makes me think even more that switch is likely the culprit. Run me through how you tested the switch. With it removed, you should have an open circuit that closes when the switch is depressed. Is this the result you got?
Customer: replied 1 year ago.


correct

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
Are you familiar with how to backprobe a connector?
Customer: replied 1 year ago.

yup

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
The 4 wd ecu is located behind the kick panel on the drivers side. Get to it and I will get the pinout locations for all the switches so we can check them at the computer. Give me a bit to put it together.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.


k

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
Which engine is in your 4 runner, the diagrams are slightly different.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.


v6

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
Here's a link to download the connector view

http://db.tt/ALpdzvGx

I'm going to list the switch locations and what you should see when backprobed with everything in 2wd
Pin 19 ADD switch open in 2Wd
Pin 5 4wd detection switch open in 2wd
Pin 18 H4/L switch open in 2wd
Pin 7 center diff lock open in 2wd
Pin 4 2-4 select switch open in 2wd

Check those to see if any show a ground with everything in 2wd position.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.

thanks. link defective. will see if I can see #'s

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

thanks. link defective. will see if I can see #'s no #'s. can you get me 2 or 3 wire colors. I can orientate from there

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
That's odd. I just copied the link into a separate browser and it went straight to the download. Pin 19 is black with blue tracer and pin 5 is red with black tracer.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.

got link finally. my red / blk is pin 6 12v


4 pink 244 ohms


7 grey 12v


18 br/yl 12v


19 bk/bl gd

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
Can you clarify pin 19 and pin 4. If checking voltage it should be 0 volts or 12 volts.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
>key on lever in 2wd. 0 v on both 19 and 4
Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
Make sure the 2-4 select button is out, that is pin 4 and should not be grounded. The other is the ADD detection switch and should not be grounded in 2 wheel. Make sure the front wheels are not locked to the driveline.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.

front wheels are locked wont switch unless I swap vac lines side to side. pin 4 picks up voltage switch applied

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
Remove the pin from the connector at pin 4, leave vacuum lines off at vacuum valves, then try it and see if the lights stay off and it stays in 2wd.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.

made it worse. instead of the green wheel indicator lights on now everything flashes like when you would put it in 4x4

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
I see why. Use a vacuum pump and unlock the front differential.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.


did

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
Is the transfer case in 2 wheel orXXXXX check to see if the front driveline is locked together with the rear. Ill do some more research about that switch. The diagram shows it open in 2 wd position, but I will dig a little deeper.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.


they are locked together, I thought they were out, must have missed that

Customer: replied 1 year ago.

transfer case works manually in n and 4l. case is always locked except in n. front axle always locked. is the computer the only thing that commands the auto lock. I had previously pulled off the auto motor and tested it but couldn't test the commands to it

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
Did you disassemble the transfer case to remove the actuator?
Customer: replied 1 year ago.

no pulled the cover off the side of the actuator, pulled out the drive gear . bench tested the motor and re assembled. worked the same after as before. about ready to just get a computer and t case.

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
Those actuators are a BIG pain once you do this. Proper installation is done by disassembling the case. Here's what to do. Take it off and manually shift the case to 2wd. On the bench run the motor all the way counterclockwise (pulling the shaft out), then just tap the contacts to move it back just a little. Now the trick is to put it back on without pushing the shaft in and going back into 4 wd. Once done, make sure the ADD on the front diff is unlocked and try it again. If its still not right, your best option may be a complete, used case with the actuator attached.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.

did the retime, didn't work. ordered a t case thanks

Expert:  Boxer54 replied 1 year ago.
Let me know if you run into any more trouble with this.
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