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Toyota Supra: faster than..fuse box..hazards work..steering column

 
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Have a 1993 MKIV Toyota Supra where the turn signals just all of a sudden
went out, no solid green or faster than normal blinking, just nothing...Hazards still work both front and back as shared previously. Local auto part stores told me it was flasher but 1. cannot find flasher in left kick panel fuse box, 2. seems like if hazards work why wouldn't regular turn signals as discussed in previous questions and after reviewing wiring diagrams.

Was able to remove upper and lower steering column shroud and see three wires but cannot find plug or switch to be removed or how R&R is accomplished.

Can you help? this is again and emergency and know I likely cannot get parts until Stealership opens in the AM.

There must be a remove and replace for simple job like this...

Help????

 

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Make: Toyota
Model: Supra
Year: 1993.5

Already Tried:
New bulbs, removal or upper and lower Shroud, etc...

Submitted: 332 days and 15 hours ago.
Category: Toyota
Value: $28
Status: CLOSED

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Expert:  AMD replied 332 days and 15 hours ago.


amd_hcds :

Hello and thank you for choosing just answer

amd_hcds :

It defently is a good sign that your hazards are working since it indicates a smaller problem area.

amd_hcds :

Do you have a volt meter handy? It would help alot if you have one.

amd_hcds :

I would suspect it's a flasher as well, we can test if the flasher is indeed the problem area or not if you have a volt meter.

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amd_hcds :

I want you first to find the 7.5A TURN fuse as indicated in the picture above, make sure it's not burned. If this fuse is fine then locate your flasher which will be at the top of the under-dash fuse box also indicated in the picture.

amd_hcds :

Like I stated before if you have a volt meter we can test it but if you don't then you're throwing a part that most likely will fix your problem but there's a chance that it will not, There's no other way to make verify if the flasher is bad or not without a volt meter.

amd_hcds :

Let me know what you find and if you have other questions. If you are satisfied with my answers please press ACCEPT so I can get compensated for my time.

amd_hcds :

Thank you.

Customer :

I see two "black box" like relay's on left lower kick panel, one lower one all the way at the top.

Customer :

See two black box type relays in left kick panel box. one lower one all the way to the top.

amd_hcds :

Stand by while I try to find you the exact location of the flahser in that fuse bo

amd_hcds :

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Customer :

which one is it? is there a diagram for the box...i bought a flasher at the auto parts store already. BTW checked all 7.5 fuses and they were ok.

amd_hcds :

OK Hold on i will try to find you a better diagram to determine exactly which on it is, If memory serves me right it will be the one at the top, try to pull that one out and read the label on it, if you find a part no. on it let me know since a part no. will help.

amd_hcds :

What I remember and the repair manual are indicating that it's most likely the one all the way at the top

amd_hcds :

Take that relay out and see it says anything on it or if it has a part number on it

amd_hcds :

OK I just comfirmed that your model toyota if you have an original flasher it will have the part number on that black relay looking flasher and it will say Flahser on it.

Customer :

That will have to wait he just drove car to the store with hand signals. Brake lights still work...Just really wonder if replacing flasher will actually work? Also how do you get them out....is there a trick to it? Plastic trim on this car is almost one of a kind and hard to find. Nothing in junk yards, etc... but at least its not going down in value so far. Who ever put cover on steering column last time only had one screw holding it on.

amd_hcds :

Well the flasher will basically come out, sometimes use a small set of pliers will help to get it out there's no trick to it. And yes the flasher might be the problem but without testing the only thing you can do is try to replace it.

amd_hcds :

If you are satisfied with my answers please press ACCEPT so I can get compensated for my time. if you have any other questions please let me know.

Customer :

my only other question relates back to original question? how to remove and replace to turn signal switch?

amd_hcds :

Hold on while I research instructions to remove them for you.

amd_hcds :

OK to remove the and replace the turn signal switch is a rather involved job since you need to remove the driver's air bag and steering wheel to get to the switch and replace it.

amd_hcds :

And the switch for the turn signal switch is in the same assembly as the wiper switch.

amd_hcds :

Older toyotas didn't have seperate switches for turn signal and wiper switch they are the same unit.

amd_hcds :

To remove it you will need to disconnect the battery and wait at least 90 seconds to completely disarm the air bag system.

amd_hcds :

then on each side of the steering wheel you will see a small cover, pry on that cover to reveal 2 torx bolts one on each side of the steering wheel.

amd_hcds :

You will need a T30 Torx to loosen these bolts, please note that these bolts will not be remove from the steering wheel by design, you will get them loose all the way until the steering wheel pad comes out. once you've pulled the steering wheel pad disconnect the Air bag connector.

amd_hcds :

After this you will need to mark the steering wheel so you'd know how to put it back, make sure that your steering wheel is straight, remove the steering wheel nut and using a steering wheel puller take out the steering wheel.

amd_hcds :

Then you're almost there 4 screws and a couple of connectors and the entire switch assembly will slide out.

amd_hcds :

There's a special procedure for installing the new switch since it has the spiral cable in it.

amd_hcds :

Turn it counterclockwise until it becomes hard to turn then rotate it closewise 3 complete turns and it is centered, YOU HAVE to make sure that your steering wheel was straight before taking out the steering wheel otherwise you will ruin the new spiral cable.

amd_hcds :

Some precautions with the air bag when you take it out, make sure you never drop it and make sure that the toyota sign on the steering pad is always facing upwards.

amd_hcds :

Be very careful with handling the steering wheel pad, the last thing you need to deploy the air bag, this might be a safety hazard be careful please.

amd_hcds :

Like I stated this is a pretty involved job to be done at home but it's not very hard. Requires some special tools and some accuracy but it's defenitly something that can be done with little tools and medium mechanical abilities.

Customer :

do we really think that could be it ? previous adviser said it could be done with without steering wheel removal. Wll rtrre

amd_hcds :

Oh also when you re install everything in reverse order, if your steering wheel is off center then repeat the steps above until you remove the steering wheel and move it one teeth to get it right.

Customer :

will try to send your way...

amd_hcds :

Someone might have found a way to do it without removing the steering wheel but the right way and correct procedure which toyota wants you to replace the switch is the way I described.

amd_hcds :

Which is the procedure that comes from the repair manual.

amd_hcds :

If you are satisfied with my answer please press ACCEPT so I can get compensated for my time. If you have any other questions please let me know. Thank you.

Customer :

works for me...right way and wring way.....

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Answered: 5/13/2012

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