Hi my 2001 Toyota Echo would not start (no click/turning over when turning key), so I replaced the battery myself, now headlights, radio, dashlights etc. all work, but still no click/turning over whatsoever. I tried jumping the car, still nothing. Thank you for any suggestions.
Country: United StatesMake: ToyotaModel: EchoYear: 2001
Hello. Welcome to Just Answer. Please allow me to assist you on this matter. WOuld you happen to have the car available, and a 12 volt DC testlight available to do a few checks?
Also, please advise if the car is an automatic, or a manual transmission. Thanks
hi thanks for your help, I unfortunately am not with the car right now. it is a manual
No worries. When will the car be available?
probably will be able to work on the car tomorrow, sorry not sooner. it is a friend's car I am trying to fix. have a feeling will need a tow
Let me ask you one quick question.
Do you have any floor mats in the driver side floor area?
i made sure it was not caught under the clutch...
are you concerned the new battery may not be fully charged?
A discharged battery woul make at least a click .
starter issue possible?
Without some tests, you either have a bown fuse, a bad relay or a bad starter solenoid.
Can you see the starter when the hood is up?
honestly not sure what it looks like
i am googling
Long cylinder with wires on it
any simple diagnostic tests for broken starter?
or need to take to shop
Checking voltage at the wires will tell us quite a bit. Checking a specific wire will tell us if it is the starter or not
One thing you can do...
Open the hood
Have somebody turn the key to start, and hold it there
Locate the starter
Tap the starter with a hammer on the side of the starter aluminum case
See if it cranks
If it cranks by tapping on it, you need a starter
okay will try that thanks. in terms of testing fuse--if the fuse was blown would the dashlights, headlights, radio still turn on? separate fuses?
There are two fuses unique to the starter
15 amp AM2 and XX XXX XX
and where are they generally located? in cabin or under hood?
The other devices will work if the ST fuses are blown
under the hood for these two
AM2 is under the dash
correction. AM2 and ST are both under the hood. Had to verify that. Sorry
okay thanks. so plan is to test starter with your tap test, find fuses and use 12V testlight, in any case will need professional help whatever I find it seems.
The best way to chec fuses is with a testlight.
can you give me the gist of how to use the testlight? seen it before but cannot remember
just found it on google, looks easy just need to find a testlight
the testlight has a pointed end, THis is where you touch it to, to check power.
the testlight has a clamp on a wire, on the other side, away form the pointy end
and need to check on both sides of hte fuse i assume
clip the clampy thing to a good metal ground/
correct. Both sides
a blown fuse will have power on one side, power in. The blown fuse is a opn circuit, and no power will be on the other side
makes sense. okay then I think i have enough to do, thank you very much for your help, I will just click accept below
oh one more question
make sure the clutch switch is good before you do anything
i assume that just because the dashlights, radio, and headlights work, there could still be insufficient charge in the battery to start the car ?
not in this case where there is no turning over
but in general
That is possible, but you would still hear a clicking noise under the hood, with a discharged battery. DO the lights dim when you turn the key to start?
they do dim yes
That is a discharged battery
i see...so just take back to store for them to charge up?
If you want to ensure you have proper voltages, yes.
okay i'll try that first then.
so i should not expect dash lights to dim at all when starting up
strange i do not hear a click though
on key turn
Not a bunch dim, just a bit
okay the dash clock blacks out transiently
anyhow thank you I think I will take the battery back first. thank you for your help
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