hello welcome to the site, is this a 4x4 or 2 wd
the timing cover can be removed with out taking the head off yes
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ok this will make removing the oil pan very tricky.
all you need to do is remove the front pan bolt's to allow the removal of the cover.
Here is my dilema. I think that the oil pan is leaking where it meets the timing chain cover. In addtion the Dirt bag that sold us the truck reemed the oil pan bolt head and I was hoping to drill out the plug on the work bench. So how hard is it to remove the oil pan?
I meant to say oil pan drain plug
I am still here on line
if your tring to install a oil pan plug correct in addition to fixing the oil leak correct ?
or this is a oil drain plug issue
the oil drain plug can be fixed in the truck. they sell several repair kit's for damaged drain plug threads
Well I have an oil leak in the timing chain cover at the oil pan and the plug is stripped as well so I thought I would do both at the same time
i got you now
Yea the plug is stuck in the pan
Labor is not a problem and neither is time since I am teaching my son how to fix his truck that he bought from his grass cutting money so he could drive to High school and work
well these can be done but it's been a long time since i removed a pan on a 4x4 model but i know i have you will have to over look the pan and im pretty sure it clears the diff. you will have to unbollt the front cross bar just below the oil pan it has 4 bolts
I am assuming that i do not need to take the head off
Also will the diff cause a problem?
I am not sure If I have to lift the engine off the mounts
i just looked and my service is calling for unbolting the mounts to allow the engine to be jacked up a tad to clear
Is there any other consideration when lifting the engine off the mounts
just lift a little to allow any clearence needed .
Also I am a little concerned about taking the main pully off of the truck. What precaution do I need to take? I was going to use an impact wrench
im trying to remember and i dont think i had to do anything like that when i did them
just make sure you don't let the crank pully rotate.
I just need to mark the pully right?
these i do know are very tight
Ok how do I stop it from rotating
all you have to do is bring it up on TDC and you will be fine
holding it by hand will be plenty ,
TDC? What is that
let me get some info for you
top dead center (TDC)
I saw the skematics and
Ok I got TDC
any advice on getting the plug out of the oil pan?
well since your removing the pan drill it out or tap it out from behind
I have tried every type of specialty wrench you can imagine, but the dog who owned it before us had already stripped the head off
Ok from behind, Would you heat it?
if the head is just rounded off then use a pair of vice grips
Vice gripps are not getting it off
how much of the bolt head is their ?
are you using a curved jaw or straight ?
I would love to leave the pan on and just put the gasket on after dropping the pan
There is a good amount of head
ok this is just a battle of brute force to get these to lock and break it loose
Yep and I may just need to buy a set of super sized grips
at my dealer i run into this a few times and i have to get a bite on the base of the plug.
i will say this since you have the timing cover off it's smart money to but a chain kit and replace the guides and the chain.
the base is too thin to get a hold of on this one.
I even used a bar
i bet the guides wil lbe broken
How much are guides and chain any Idea
It looks like I will have to remove the head to get to the chain
no since your removing the pan you wont have to.
Does the chain cover go up under the head?
even then i never removed the head to replace the chain
the timing chain kits are cheap on line
I will definitely need a kit an a set of gaskets
yes the chain goe up through the head
yes honestly i would replace the chain and guide set
Ok We will try to get the oil pan off first then worry about the chain if we have to, but I am almost sure that the leak is at the junction of the chain cover and the oil pan cover gasket
well i do know these have oil pumps that leak all the time. and will run down the front and look like the cover is leaking
first step is to steam clean the area real good and then recheck for the leaks
I will take a look at this as well
we have cleaned it up already and it is coming from the bottom of the engine
this would be far easier then removing the timng cover
near the pulley ?
or just behind ?
Looks like below and behind, you can see where the dirt bag put some sealer over the leak
if you look at image 7 on th directions i sent you will see the bottom of the crank
how far behind the pulley about 3/4"
ok i have a feeling the oil pump is leaking
I have not tried to spot the oil pump where is it on this engine?
i would remove the crank pulley and then remove the 6 bolts directly behind the pulley and then slide the cover off and check the o rings i bet these are rock hard
look at the directions i sent and look at step 7 at the bottom of the cover their is 6 bolts holding a small cover
Is this not also the chain cover?
i did so many of these in the past
its part of it
the oil pump is housed in the timing cover
Ok because I bought a new water pump as well
is there a gasket around the neck of the oil pump (like a seal ring)
well i honestly think this is the oil pump leaking
and the fix is a new oil pump or just the gaskets on the chain cover?
It is leaking oil really bad, but only on the road
Ok I will go get a new ring,
Any advice on the plug stuck in the oil pan?
Do you want me to keep this open and let you know how it went or accept now? You have been very helpful.
i wish i had a better solution on the drain plug
after you accept you will still be able to contact me on this
Hey I just wanted to let you know that the leak was at the oil pump. Also I got the plug out of the oil pan by taking the truck to a muffler shop and welding a bolt to the plug and then just putting a bigger wrench on it.
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