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2005 Corolla: The malfunction indicator (check engine?) light

 
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I have a 2005 Corolla. The malfunction indicator (check engine?) light has been going on and off for the last 12 days. I went by my dealer today, but they closed early. Advance Auto tested it, and I get a P2716 code. Is it safe to drive? What's this mean? Does a dealer need to fix it or can any mechanic do it?

 

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Year: 2005
Make: Toyota
Model: corolla le

Already Tried:
Tried the gas cap thing. I work nights with a 100-mile communte. Only comes on nights or weekends when they aren't available.

Submitted: 1263 days and 10 hours ago.
Category: Toyota
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Expert:  Doug C replied 1263 days and 10 hours ago.

Hi,

Yes the P2716 is usually safe to drive, but should be corrected as soon as possible.

The code is in relation to a shift solenoid malfunction, however on this vehicle the malfunction is nearly always related to the PCM (computer). 2005-2007 Corollas had faulty programming in the PCM that erroneously reported the shift solenoid malfunction. The results are a check engine light on and sometimes harder than normal shifting from the transmission.

The correction to this problem is an updated PCM that corrects the problem. Regarding the light not being on when you are able to take it in, do not worry. The code will be stored in the computers memory from the last time it was on, and the dealer will be able to identify the issue even if the ligth is currently off.

The repair is covered for 8 years or 80,000 miles, so depending on your mileage you may be able to have this repaired at no charge to you. This is something the dealer needs to perform both for warranty reasons, and also because your VIN will need to be programmed into the new PCM, which requires a Toyota dealer scantool.

Attached is a copy of the bulletin regarding this symptom. It is a large image so it may take a few minutes to load:
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Customer replied 1263 days and 10 hours ago.

Well, with a 100 mile commute daily, I have about 106,000 miles on the car now. Do you have any idea about how much this costs or how much time it should take?

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Expert:  Doug C replied 1263 days and 10 hours ago.

The labor is only about $40, and it takes literally minutes to do.

The PCM on the other hand, is a bit spendy at $725 list price. You can get them online in the mid $500 though.

I would consult with your dealer and see if they are willing to goodwill the part, or perhaps a portion of the repair bill. This is a very well known condition on this vehicle, and they may be willing to assist you in some way.

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