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2001 toyota rav4: toyota dealer..drove..it 20 miles..car died

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diesel fuel was accidentally put in my 2001 toyota rav 4. the toyota dealer is having a hard time fixing it. The dealer drove it 20 miles after flushing the lines and then the car died. The dealer still has it. Any suggestions
Submitted: 7 years ago.
Category: Toyota
Expert:  RIP replied 7 years ago.

Hi, welcome to jA.

  • How much diesel did you add, and how much gasoline was in the tank?
  • How long did you drive before realizing, diesel was added?
  • How many miles are on the vehicle.

-Rip

Customer: replied 7 years ago.
1. I added about a full tank to the rav 4 10 to 12 gallons.

2. I think I drove only about 10 miles

3. there are 26, 800 miles on the vehicle
Expert:  RIP replied 7 years ago.

Alright, thanks for the info. We recieve 3-4 gasoline vehicle's which received diesel, a month. I have had this occur on Rav4's before...it really isn't a big deal, you simply drain the gas tank, replace the fuel filter, and we normally run the engine on a injection machine (gasoline) prior to letting it run on it's own again. I doub't any real damage could have occured, with such low milage. At our facility we charge 2.0 hours (approx $180) to repair this condition. I'm confused as to why the dealer is having such a difficult time, unless they're not familiar with this occurance, or they're trying to sell you more than what you need. It's also possible they didn't completely drain the diesel, even if one gallon was left in the tank and they added 2 gallons or so after the cleanup, well the dillution is still not enough to properly run a gas enigne, so ask how much they added after. Or it may be that after driving it 20 miles, another coincidental problem arrose. Find out for me what is occuring now, does the engine crank and not fire, does it not crank, does it fire and run bad, does the check enigne light come on, etc...this will give me a better idea on if something new has occured after the fact.

-Rip

 

RIP, LEAD TECHNICIAN
Category: Toyota
Satisfied Customers: 5591
Experience: A.S.E. MASTER TECHNICIAN. TOYOTA SERVICE TRAINING, ADVANCED LEVEL ENGINE PERFORMANCE,CA SMOG, HYBRID
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Customer: replied 7 years ago.
Relist: I still need help.
Just want to explore this a bit more -- I am not quite sure how many miles I drove -- it could be a maximum of 60. When I when to pick up the vehicle the engine light came on but it would not even crank up -- it was dead. Could it be the battery? When I brought it in 12 days ago it was stalling, etc. The dealer has charged $900 for this -- fortunately my insurance is picking this up. To complicate this, the gas stations I frequent do not even sell diesel fuel.

Thoughts. You sound like you know what you are doing.

Thanks
Expert:  RIP replied 7 years ago.

  • So you are not sure that Diesel was put in the fuel tank?? Has the dealer determined this scenario?
  • From your description above, you brought it into them running?Or did it stall, and you had it towed?

-Rip

Customer: replied 7 years ago.
I brought it in running
Expert:  RIP replied 7 years ago.
  • Was the only reason you brought it in, was for the Stalling?
  • If so, was the check engine lamp comming on at that time?
  • Was it stalling when you came to a stop light, or in the cold mornings?

-Rip

 

Customer: replied 7 years ago.
It was stalling intermittently -- the check engine light keeps coming on. I just received something in the mail today from Toyota re reprogramming the EMC module -- could that be it?
Expert:  RIP replied 7 years ago.

So, i'm a little confused becuase I wonder how the dealer came to the conclusion that Diesel was in the fuel tank. If this occured once the gasoline was used up in the tank (Diesel floats on fuel) the engine would stall, and you couldn't drive it. So this Diesel scenario doesn't make sense (unless someone added Diesel or another substance to your fuel tank). Now, these have common problems for stalling such as the IAC (Idle Air Control) valve, but it is not accompanied by a Check Engine Lamp. The Check Engine Lamp illumination is the key to what is going on, do you have any diagnostic codes they retrieved while working on your vehicle? Codes can help me better understand what the engine's computer is seeing. Also, this can be a computer re-flash concern, but the dealer should already know this?? The one item that does make sense is a bad battery. A shorted battery can let the vehicle drive and start normally, than cause intermittent issues such as stalling, becuase the engine's computer is sensitive to power surges, and voltage drops. Has the battery been replaced yet? What did the dealer do for $900, it sounds like they don't know what they're doing, which is uncommon practices of a dealer.

-Rip

RIP, LEAD TECHNICIAN
Category: Toyota
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Customer: replied 7 years ago.
The battery was replaced recently. However, I think you are right
Customer: replied 7 years ago.
Reply to RIP's Post: The battery was replaced in October
Expert:  RIP replied 7 years ago.

If the battery was of an inferrior brand/quality...it can pose a problem as well. Many of these AutoZone, Pepboys, Advanced Auto, etc they're batteries can cause these problems, or if the cables weren't tightened it can do this as well. And most good technicians will overlook something as simple as a battery, or loose cables. Your Rav4 has got very low milage to be having this problem out of the blue. Thanks for the second accpet, but let me know what goes on, and if your having difficulty with the dealer; even though the insurance co. has made the payment your entittled to a repaired vehicle, and i'm sure the insurance would hate to know it's still not repaired. Also, the dealer should be paying for a rental by now.

-Rip

 

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