It sounds like they may have finally gotten things cranked back up and (as it seems I see more and more these days) they've taken it upon themselves to go at thsithrough your payroll
Okay. I had made a payment arrangement with them and set up automatic withdrawal back in August. However, they kept sending me letters stating they were behind in processing and that my account was on "hold". Now I get this Notice of Levy. Does this mean they will take my entire paycheck? Also, my husband is on disability--will they also take that?
You might find this IRS internal manual on serving Levys notices useful: http://www.irs.gov/irm/part5/irm_05-011-002.html
No there is a maximum they can take
let me get that for you
thank you. Can they also take part or all of my husband's SS disability?
Or just my pay?
just yr pay ...
Well...I guess that should make me feel better...although it doesn't!
they MAY have the ability ... and sometimes DO take portions of SS RETIREMENT but I;ve never seen them level SS disability
My husband suffered a massive stroke 3 years ago...that's how I fell behind.
let me get thi for you
first: a little background while I'm looking it up
Unlike other levies, a levy on a taxpayer's wages and salary has a continuous effect. It attaches to future payments, until the levy is released. Wages and salary include fees, bonuses, commissions, and similar items. All other levies only attach to property and rights to property that exist when the levy is served.
If a bank account is levied, it only reaches money in the account when the levy is served. It does not reach money deposited later.
what is the difference between a levy and a garnishment?
nothing in this case ... an account levy is a one time shot
but a levy against wages continues
Part of the individual taxpayer's wages, salary, (including fees, bonuses, commissions and similar items) and other income, as well as retirement and benefit income, is exempt from levy.
The weekly exempt amount is:
The total of the taxpayer's standard deduction and the amount deductible for exemptions on an income tax return for the year the levy is served.
Then, this total is divided by 52.
Hmmm...I'm not sure how to figure what my standard deduction is.
or my exemptions. Is there somewhere I can find this information?
For married filing jointly the standard deducion is
Married Filing Joint: $12,200 for 2013
and the exemptions are 3900 for each of you and your husband
And my minor child? Is that an exemption?
yes, dependent exemptions are another 3900 ea
Also, you employer SHOULD be giving you a form to fill out that ay also limit further based on your living costs
So I would add the 12,000 plus 3,900 x3 and divide that by 52?
If they try to do more than that you should refer them to: http://www.irs.gov/irm/part5/irm_05-011-002.html
or I shoudl say exempt less than that
Okay. One last question...do you think it would benefit me at all to contact the IRS and ask them why they did this? I received no notice other than that which said they would contact me 45 days prior to beginning my automatic bank drafts.
I guess I'm asking is...is it too late to go back to them and see why this happened and see if I can reinstate my original installment plan?
Absolutely ... sometimes the IRS's right arm doesn't know what the left arm is doing, so to speak ... be sure to gather all the documentation together .. so you can give all of the iotice numbers, etc (may help them "connect the dots")
sorry for the typos "notice" numbers
Right and I do have all of the notices. Okay, one last question, I promise! The figure that I arrived at after taking the standard deductions and the exemptions (approx. $475)--is that the amount they will leave me with or the amount they would take from each pay check if I am paid biweekly?
That's the amount they will exempt from calculations ... in other words that's the "won't touch" money ... then, again, you employer will give you a form for listing out your household expenses and it may be that will lower the amount they DO take even further
Yeah, I did not receive anything from my employer other than the official IRS levy notice.
when you call ask about that as well hang on and let me see if I can find a form number for you
Here's the site that gives the standards for what is allowed (I can't find the form) http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Collection-Financial-Standards
Thank you again. I will call tomorrow. I'm upset that I was not notified that this was the course they were pursuing as I've kept in contact with them, even calling them three times because they had not taken the auto bank draft. They just kept telling me that my "account was on hold" and they were running behind on processing. Seems to me they should have to notify someone before they go to the employer.
I would not be surprised at all to find that a completely different department picked it up, seeing thr length of time, and decided to do the levy That's why I would call and help them conect the dots
As an example of the allowances, see this:
Taxpayers are allowed the total National Standards amount monthly for their family size, without questioning the amounts they actually spend. If the amount claimed is more than the total allowed by the National Standards for food, housekeeping supplies, apparel and services, and personal care products and services, the taxpayer must provide documentation to substantiate those expenses are necessary living expenses. Deviations from the standard amount are not allowed for miscellaneous expenses. Generally, the total number of persons allowed for National Standards should be the same as those allowed as exemptions on the taxpayer’s most recent year income tax return.
ONce you rate there, these links and all of our conversation will stay here for you ... If they try simply to levy without trying to take into account both the exempt amount and the allowances, you need to point them to the link for the national standards I gave you above (although if you call, it may not get that far)
Well, I certainly appreciate your help on this. Will they give me a certain period of time for me to get my documentation, etc. in place or is this levy immediate?
There should be a time frame... let me see if I can find something ... but the way, if you want to go another route completely there IS an appeals office ... that can allow you to work with someone that's not just another call center rep
let me get THAT for you
You may appeal many IRS collection actions to the IRS Offi ce of Appeals (Appeals). Appeals is separate from and independent of theIRS Collection offi ce that initiated the collection action. Appeals ensures and protects its independence by adhering to a strict policyof prohibiting certain ex parte communications with the IRS Collection offi ce or other IRS offi ces, such as discussions regarding thestrengths or weaknesses of your case
Okay, thank you. You have been very helpful. This was devastating to me as I take care of my husband full time as well as working full time.
I assume the levy would be in place until after the appeals process?
In other words, the request for appeal does not stop the levy?
If you can get the form to the very quickly many times this will stop things in their tracks
Collection Due Process (CDP) is available if you receive one of the following notices:• Notice of Federal Tax Lien Filing and Your Right to a Hearing under IRC 6320• Final Notice - Notice of Intent to Levy and Notice of Your Right to a Hearing• Notice of Jeopardy Levy and Right of Appeal• Notice of Levy on Your State Tax Refund – Notice of Your Right to a Hearing• Post Levy Collection Due Process (CDP) NoticeCollection Appeals Program (CAP) is available for the following actions:• Before or after the IRS fi les a Notice of Federal Tax Lien• Before or after the IRS levies or seizes your property• Termination, or proposed termination, of an installment agreement• Rejection of an installment agreement• Modifi cation, or proposed modifi cation, of an installment agreement
Use this form:
If they get it before the process is started you may be able to tell the whole story to one person
I never got any of those notices. Only the one my employer sent literally hours ago saying it was basically a done deal.
Never got a letter of intent, etc.
any notice of Levy gives you the right to take this to the appeak ... notice, also, the Rejection of an installment agreement is on there ... your grounds should be that you were promised one thing and the out of the blue ou get this levy notice
Also notice n the form it says this: "
Call the phone number on the notice or 1-800-829-1040 if you are not sure about the correct addressor if you want to fax your request."
Okay, you have given me some hope! Now, they cannot attack my bank account, correct? My husband's SS disability is direct deposited.
They COULD, but that would be a one time levy AND you would get a notice of that beforehand as well ... this is an indication that the (someone there) has deided to go a different way (seeing that there is a regular income there)
I would call, explain and ask for the fax number to send in the 12153 all on one call .. then shoot it in as quickly as possible
Depending on how the call goes, tat gves you some backup
Okay, I will certainly do that. I thank you very much again. I appreciate your time.
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Absolutely and thank you again. Have a nice evening :)
Br proactive in my experience, if you get to them before they get to you, your result is always better
Exactly my plan! Of course...I thought I WAS being proactive! I shall try again.
Get some sleep tonight
It'll be tough but I'll try. Good night!
Sounds like you were ... maybe now you have a couple more fronts on which to attack
I'd start with the 12153... Good evening
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