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Hello and thanks for trusting me to help you today. I am a tax adviser with over 15 years of experience.The transfer of money from the UK to the US is not a taxable event. If you were a US person (resident alien) when you received the payment then you would need to report the payment but you may not have any tax to pay.The taxable amount of a foreign pension for a US person, generally is the Gross Distribution minus the Cost (investment in the contract).If you were not a US person you would not be required to report the payment in the US.
If you were a US person (resident alien or citizen) when you received the payment then treaty provisions may apply. As a general rule, the pension/annuity articles of most tax treaties allow the country of residence (as determined by the residency article) to tax the pension or annuity under its domestic laws. This is true unless a treaty provision specifically amends that treatment.
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ok just to clear this up...
I am a uk citizen but am now a US resident as im getting marrid here in a coupe of weeks
yuk at my spelling/typing lol
Have you received the payment already?
I won't look at your spelling if you do the same for me
no I get the money on 25th Oct
my actual retirement date is 24th oct... but my employer owed me some time off
so im here in the usa but my money isn't yet!
Ok, then you will report the total on your US return but the taxable amount will only be the earnings. So all your contributions will be tax free
I need to look at the treaty though so one sec............
does that include the monthly amount I will be receiving from my firefighter pension from the uk as well?
Yes it will
I did read something about a double taxation treaty
Your residency decides who gets to apply tax. Yes there is a provision for double taxation. Will teh UK tax your pension in the UK while you are not a resident?
If so then the US allows for a credit
ok I think I have to fill in some UK tax forms to make sure that happens
For the US you will use Form 1116 when you file.
ARTICLE 17Pensions, Social Security, Annuities, Alimony, and Child Support1. a) Pensions and other similar remuneration beneficially owned by a resident of aContracting State shall be taxable only in that State.
I was just worried that I was going to be hammered for tax as soon as I transferred my lump sum of cash
No when you tranfer the tax is not applied
You will declare income when you file in the US
ok fantastic :)
Just make sure you use a preparer that understands the procedure
so the transfer of my lump sum is not counted as income for tax purposes when I file?
finding a tax preparer is a whole other question lol
The transfer is irrelevant but the amount you receive will need to be reported on your tax return. You will show the total as a pension but then the taxable amount is only what you did not contribute.
You should not have a problem in NY
Just make sure and ask them if they understand teh procedure
ok thank you very much for your help... you are a star
You are most welcome. Your positive rating is always thanks enough.
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ok great thank you... just copying and pasting to make sure lol
It will remain in your My Questions too. SO you can always find it there when you log in