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I have loans from shareholders on my corporate books.

 
 
 

Customer Question

I have loans from shareholders on my corporate books. I am afraid of the thin capitalization rules. Is there a ratio that the IRS can assess from loans from shareholders and equity of the corporation?

Submitted: 1395 days and 20 hours ago.
Category: Tax
Status: CLOSED
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Posted by RD 1395 days and 20 hours ago.

Response From Expert

Is this a S Corp or a C Corp? Is the Corporation paying interest on these loans from the shareholders?

 
 
 
 
 
 
1395 days and 20 hours ago.

Customer Reply

This is an S Corporation. We have promissory notes and interest is paid to the shareholders every year.

 
 
 
 
 
 
Posted by RD 1395 days and 19 hours ago.

Expert's Answer

If the loans are properly documented and the corporation is paying a reasonable interest on the loans than there should not be a problem from IRS view point.

You may even want to consider if this is a capital contribution and may include it in capital basis if that is the case.

 

Let me know if you have any question.

 

Please note: This advice is provided with the understanding that all the relevant facts have been provided by you. Any change in facts might affect the advice given and hence may not be relied on in such cases. Nothing contained in this reply was intended or written to be used, can be used by any taxpayer, or may be relied upon or used by any taxpayer for the purposes of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer under the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended.

 
 
 
 
 
 
1395 days and 19 hours ago.

Customer Reply

Why would I want to consider this to be capital?Wouldn't that create a problem with a second class of stock issue because it is an S Corp.

The interest rate is 12% because these are unsecured loans.

Thank-you

 
 
 
 
 
 
Posted by RD 1395 days and 19 hours ago.

Expert's Answer

Ok...so the loan is not an equal amount from all the stockholders. Yes, in that case you will not consider this as capital.

If the interest rate is comparable to the current market rates for such loans than it is reasonable and there will not be any issues related to the transaction.

 

Let me know if you have any question.

 

Please note: This advice is provided with the understanding that all the relevant facts have been provided by you. Any change in facts might affect the advice given and hence may not be relied on in such cases. Nothing contained in this reply was intended or written to be used, can be used by any taxpayer, or may be relied upon or used by any taxpayer for the purposes of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer under the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended.

 
 
 
 
 
 
1395 days and 19 hours ago.

Customer Reply

I just wanted to know if you knew of any ratio capital to loans from shareholders for thin capitalization rules that the IRS would impose?

 
 
 
 
 
 
Posted by RD 1395 days and 19 hours ago.

Expert's Answer

Thin capitalization is an objective determination made upon the evaluation of a corporation's debt-to-equity ratio. An excessive ratio is one in which debt far exceeds equity and typically indicates thin capitalization. Because the nature and requirements of different businesses impose different standards of determining an acceptable debt-to-equity ratio, there are no "hard and fast rules" for what constitutes an excessive debt-to-equity ratio. You may want to compare your ratios with the industry (that you are operating in) standards/norm. This may help you in making such a determination.

 

 

Let me know if you have any question.

 

Please note: This advice is provided with the understanding that all the relevant facts have been provided by you. Any change in facts might affect the advice given and hence may not be relied on in such cases. Nothing contained in this reply was intended or written to be used, can be used by any taxpayer, or may be relied upon or used by any taxpayer for the purposes of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer under the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended.

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
1395 days and 19 hours ago.

Customer Reply

Thank-you where would I go to find these ratio's. We are in a business where loans are needed to operate.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Accepted Answer

You can get these ratios from Dunn&Bradstreet. I would suggest you run a search on goodle for Industry Standards, norms or ratios. You should be able to get some reliable sources.

 

Let me know if you have any question.

 

Please note: This advice is provided with the understanding that all the relevant facts have been provided by you. Any change in facts might affect the advice given and hence may not be relied on in such cases. Nothing contained in this reply was intended or written to be used, can be used by any taxpayer, or may be relied upon or used by any taxpayer for the purposes of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer under the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended.

 

 

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