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I am finishing a room that has a column in the middle of where

 

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I am finishing a room that has a column in the middle of where I want to place a hallway. The column is holding up an 8# XXXXX beam which in turn has the floor joists resting on it (16' joists). I would like to increase the size of the beam and remove the column. The new span of the beam would be 19'8". What size is required for the new steel beam?

Submitted: 337 days and 15 hours ago.
Category: Structural Engineering
Value: $30
Status: CLOSED

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Expert:  StructuralEng replied337 days and 15 hours ago.


StructuralEng : Hi
StructuralEng : I can help
StructuralEng : 16' joists on both sides?
StructuralEng : Is it supporting one floor or two?
StructuralEng : Before we get started I’d like to point out that a Professional Engineer’s standard of care typically includes a site visit to assess field conditions and get an overall understanding of the structure.  This can obviously not be accomplished through the internet.  The information provided here is meant for informational purposes only (general sizing and budgeting) and is based on the information provided by you.  The information should be verified by a professional engineer who can visit the site to ensure that potentially important information has not been overlooked or omitted
StructuralEng : If you can confirm 16' joists on both sides and the number of floors supported, I can get you an answer quickly.
Customer :

yes to 16' joists on both sides. supporting one floor.

StructuralEng : Great. Give me a few min to run some numbers
StructuralEng : You can plan for a W8x40 or a W10x33 or a W12x30 ASTM A992 Gr. 50. The frist number is XXX depth in inches and the second number is XXX weight in pounds per foot
StructuralEng : If you've found my answer helpful, please click the green "accept" button.  I'll be happy to answer additional questions on the topic.  If you could provide feedback, I would appreciate it
Customer :

He told me that the existing steel beam has an 8# XXXX mark. Does this help?

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Answered: 6/19/2012

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Customer replied337 days and 15 hours ago.

Contractor just said it would be hard to pull out the current 8# XXXX. Can I sister microlam beams on either side? If so, what size would they need to be?

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Expert:  StructuralEng replied337 days and 15 hours ago.

Wood beams won't help much with this condition. You reinforce the existing steel beam, but that can be a pain. You "sister" steel beams on one or both sides of the existing beam.

Do you know the designation of the existing beam?

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Expert:  StructuralEng replied337 days and 14 hours ago.

Well, let me take that back. They could be designed for that, but they would be very big, on the order of 16" - 20" deep.

Customer replied337 days and 14 hours ago.

ok. can I "sister" steel beams on either side since the wood would be way too large? If so, what size do I need?

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Expert:  StructuralEng replied337 days and 14 hours ago.

Do you know the size of the existing beam? Depth and weight per foot? Of not, can you measure the depth, width, and flange thickness? Be as precise as possible.

Customer replied337 days and 14 hours ago.

I will measure it and get back to you. Thanks!

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Expert:  StructuralEng replied337 days and 14 hours ago.

No problem. Take your time.

Customer replied337 days and 11 hours ago.

ok, they are 4" wide and 8" tall. the thickness is 1/8" to 3/16".

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Expert:  StructuralEng replied337 days and 11 hours ago.

Then you can plan for a W8x21 on each side of the existing beam. It will be important to have an engineer detail the connections between the beams to make sure they work together and not separately.

Customer replied337 days and 11 hours ago.

Thank you!

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Expert:  StructuralEng replied337 days and 11 hours ago.

No problem! Best of luck with your project.

 
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