Our president has resigned and an EGM has been called. we have asked to add items about the budget to the agenda but the administrator has told us the agenda is closed (the EGM was announced in the same email as the Agenda was sent). We think the horizontal laws say that anyone can add items to the agenda if they send them to the president for inclusion. What is your opinion
We have looked at the horizontal laws and pressed the administrator to justify why the agenda has been closed. We pointed out that if he sent the agenda at the same time as the EGM was announced no one has had a chance to to add to the agenda.
I am an spanish attorney
The administrator is forced to recibe all the items you send him even when the agenda is closed, in order to pay the urgency matters, and the new president will take notice of them as soon he is elected
So, send the items to the administartor and ask for paying the urgent matters and wait until the new president will be elected
Plaase let me know if you need more help
Hi José,Thanks for this. I have copied the english translation of section 16 of the Horizontal Laws below and from this we understand that if an AGM or EGM is called, any owner may request the meeting to 'examine and resolve on any matter' and that to do this it is required that we send a letter (or presumably email) to the president. Our adminstrator also referred us to the president, so we believe from our reading of these laws that the president must add our items to the EGM, and they must be dealt with at the meeting, whether by the old president before he resigns at the meeting, or by the new president after he is elected. You say that the administrator must include the items for the new president to address. We want to be sure they are addressed at this next EGM, and that they are not postponed by the new president. Can we rely on section 16 of the Horizontal laws to insist that they are dealt with at the EGM.Thanks------------------------Section 16 1. The meeting of the general assembly shall be held at least once a year to approve the budget and the accounts, and in any other time the president sees fit or upon request of 25 percent of the unit owners or a number representing, at least, 25 percent of the assessment quotas. 2. The summons for the meeting shall be made by the president or, failing this, by the promoters of the meeting, and shall include the items to be dealt with, the place, day and time of the first call and, where applicable, of the second call. The summons shall be made in accordance with section 9. The summons for the meeting shall include a list of unit owners with outstanding debts payable to the community and advise of the deprivation of their voting rights where the case falls within the situation described in section 15.2. Any unit owner may request the meeting to examine and resolve on any matter whatsoever concerning the community. For this purpose, a letter should be sent to the president setting out clearly the items requested to be dealt with. The president shall include them in the agenda of the following meeting to be held.
You can only do that with an importants items I mean, the administrator only will include the important items which can no be postdated
All item which coud be postdated has to be postadted until the new president, and only will be added the items which due to his own nature can no be
If you not agree with the decision of the administrator you can go into court in order to ask the judge to decide
I'm afraid I don't understand the meaning of the 2nd paragraph - which isn't complete. Can you tell me where this kind of detail about the law is written? It doesn't appear in the version of the Horizontal Law that I have.Thanks
The law is sapnish is here
1. La Junta de propietarios se reunirá por lo menos una vez al año para aprobar los presupuestos y cuentas y en las demás ocasiones que lo considere conveniente el presidente o lo pidan la cuarta parte de los propietarios, o un número de éstos que representen al menos el 25 por 100 de las cuotas de participación.
2. La convocatoria de las Juntas la hará el presidente y, en su defecto, los promotores de la reunión, con indicación de los asuntos a tratar, el lugar, día y hora en que se celebrará en primera o, en su caso, en segunda convocatoria, practicándose las citaciones en la forma establecida en el artículo 9. La convocatoria contendrá una relación de los propietarios que no estén al corriente en el pago de las deudas vencidas a la comunidad y advertirá de la privación del derecho de voto si se dan los supuestos previstos en el artículo 15.2.
Cualquier propietario podrá pedir que la Junta de propietarios estudie y se pronuncie sobre cualquier tema de interés para la comunidad; a tal efecto dirigirá escrito, en el que especifique claramente los asuntos que pide sean tratados, al presidente, el cual los incluirá en el orden del día de la siguiente Junta que se celebre.
Si a la reunión de la Junta no concurriesen, en primera convocatoria, la mayoría de los propietarios que representen, a su vez, la mayoría de las cuotas de participación se procederá a una segunda convocatoria de la misma, esta vez sin sujeción a quórum.
La Junta se reunirá en segunda convocatoria en el lugar, día y hora indicados en la primera citación, pudiendo celebrarse el mismo día si hubiese transcurrido media hora desde la anterior. En su defecto, será nuevamente convocada, conforme a los requisitos establecidos en este artículo, dentro de los ocho días naturales siguientes a la Junta no celebrada, cursándose en este caso las citaciones con una antelación mínima de tres días.
3. La citación para la Junta ordinaria anual se hará, cuando menos, con seis días de antelación, y para las extraordinarias, con la que sea posible para que pueda llegar a conocimiento de todos los interesados. La Junta podrá reunirse válidamente aun sin la convocatoria del presidente, siempre que concurran la totalidad de los propietarios y así lo decidan.
But there you are not goung to find the answer about the time where is not president at all
In these time the competency its of the owners, the general assambly and have to order to the administrator
The administartor has to managed all the urgents matters wich can no be posterdated
I will be here if you need more information
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