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Have a c30 mayco concrete pump which has a 30hp Wisconsin

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have a c30 mayco concrete pump which has a 30hp Wisconsin engine. getting spark from the spark plugs. It's like there's no gas getting to the piston heads. The fuel pump has no wires running to it so it must be engine driven. Tried pouring gas down the carburetor and using starter fluid much does not work. Pulled the manifold off just get puffs of smoke coming out of the piston heads. It's like there's no gas getting to the heads. What started the hole thing was there was some dried concrete in the pump line when the boys tried to start it up it started but the drive built from the pump to the motor started smoking so they shut it down and I have not been able to get it started again. Have all new parts, distributor cap, rotor, coil, spark plugs, spark plug wires. Stumped.
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Customer: That's all I know it won't fire up
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Submitted: 9 months ago.
Category: Small Engine
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

Engine model number? If you have spark and fuel in the cylinder and it did not fire, it may be out of time. What does it have for a timing key in flywheel or ???

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

My response is showing as customer!

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
Don't know that there is fuel getting to the piston heads. trying to figure out how the fuel get from the fuel pump to the cylinder heads. the only line running out of the fuel pump is to the carburetor and nothing out of the carburetor.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

The cylinders suck the fuel from the carburetor. What is model number of engine? Only reason fuel would not be sucked in, if there is no intake vacuum. If you hold hand over carburetor do you feel it sucking?

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
no I do not
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

Is this twin engine? If you remove spark plugs, do you have compression?

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

If it has compression, remove rocker covers and check the valves.

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
4 cylinder
Customer: replied 9 months ago.
I have compression
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

Check the valves

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

You can have compression, and the intake valves are not opening, so the fuel is not sucked into the cylinders.

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
since I took the manifold off I get puffs of smoke out of each one of the cylinder head opening.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

You say you don't feel suction at carburetor, so intake valves may not be opening

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
where are the intake values. do I have to pull the heads to get to them.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

You still haven't given me a model number. Did you see the link I sent on the Wisconsin models? There will be a valve cover somewhere, that will let you look at the valves.

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

The crankcase vent should lead to it.

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
The engine is so old and has been repainted so many times I cant find a model number on it. The only thing I know is it's a 30hp Wisconsin some where around a 1992
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

This VH4G, see page 27 , showing valve covers. But sheet metal has to be removed.

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
looking down inside the carburetor through the butter fly valve look like a copper stem that comes out. I see no gas being let out of it when trying to start it.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

If y don't have intake suction,there will be no fuel from carburetor!

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
It's doesn't smell flooded for as many times as I have tried to start it. Could the carburetor need to be cleaned?
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

You said it did not fire on starting fluid, there is something else wrong!

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
If your saying the gas is sucked out of the carburetor in to the piston heads and I have the manifold removed so there's just a hole opening above the piston heads then the starter fluid sprayed into the carburetor would do no good.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

Will it fire if you spray starting fluid into cylinders?

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

If you look into the intake holes. do you see valve movement?

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
No it won't fire if I spray starting fluid into each one of the holes. just puffs of smoke.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

Look in the intake to see if you see the valve or stems, and see if they are moving.

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
couldn't see that far down inside but put my finger down inside and felt them moving.
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

It takes fuel, spark, and air , at the proper time for engine to run. Seems like spark , compression, and air are good! And will not fire on starting fluid, so its timing or valves in my miand. Did you look at the VH4g manual link I sent? Does it look like right engine?

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

I need t be out for an hour. Will check back later.

Customer: replied 9 months ago.
Not exactly close. I probably need to take it to a small engine repair shop. Thanks for your valuable help but I think it's a little above me
Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

Here is newer model. Please rate to close the question.

Expert:  Curtis B. replied 9 months ago.

Please accept to close, or I don't get credit.

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