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Troy-bilt Snowblower Model 31A562N2711 (Storm 2410) Engine

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Troy-bilt Snowblower Model 31A562N2711 (Storm 2410)
Engine Troybilt OHV 179cc #D14938AC
Looking for oil change instructions/specifications Owner manual for unit says "check manual for the engine" Where can I find that?
Submitted: 3 years ago.
Category: Small Engine
Expert:  James W replied 3 years ago.

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I am sorry for the wait

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your engine is listed as a

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Engine179cc* OHV 4-Cycle Troy-Bilt™
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In other words, a few years ago, Troy-bilt went out of business and MTD bought them out

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ALL MTD did was put the Troy-bilt name on their existing line of MTD Cheap Snow throwers

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Worse yet, this is not a Briggs and Stratton or Tecumseh or Kohler engine

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They call it a Troy bilt engine, but the truth is

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MTD has contracted with a little know chinese manufacturer of engines who make engines very cheaply

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Unfortunately, they do not even publish engine manuals

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BUT

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if this is made the same as most

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there should be a small SQUARE metal Plug at the base of the crankcase

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of the engine usually near the rear

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You would remove the dip stick and remove this plug

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the oil should drain completely into the pan that you have provided

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then screw the plug back in

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you will fill the engine with new oil up to the line on the dip stick labled FULL

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no lower and no higher

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most snow throwers use 10W30 motor oil (Not the same as used in a lawn mower engine)

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Usually it will uses somewhere between 16 and 20oz of oil

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Do NOT over fill because you can blow the oil seals of the engine

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do not underfill because your wngine will suffer and die from oil starvation.

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Are you able to see the square metak Plug?

Customer:

Suggestions I have received are: 1st oil change after 5-6 hours to remove break-in oil, use 30W, then change yearly or 25 hours. Can follow the directions you just described. Is the 10W30 a better choice than just 30w?

Customer:

Also, should I do this (first) oil change, then change again at a more frequent interval?

Customer:

Yes, the drain plug is at the end of a small tube allowing easy removal.

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you dio not use 30W in snow throwers as it is too thick

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use SAE 30 in lawnmowers

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and then only if the temp is above 50 degrees, else

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if the temp is less than 50 degrees F you use 10W30

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Normally, I would suggest break in oil removal at 2 hours

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but on snow throwers, they never get warm enough in 2 hours to really break in, so yes 4 to 5 hours is best

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then TWICE a year after that with normal use

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The reason you can get away with longer on a snow thrower than a lanw mower is because the DIRT is just not in the air

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Lawn mower oil does not usually wear out, it just gets dirty because of the environment it runs it

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if you change oil more often such as 20 hours, in the snow thrower and 13 or 14 hours in the lawn mower

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you will double the engine life

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ALSO, NEVER EVER allow gas older than 30 days old to be in contact with any part of the carburetor

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that means buy gas in tiny quanitities

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and when it hits the 30 day mark, pour it in your car and go buy more fresh gas

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these cheap carbs in todays engine combined with the junk gas that all contains alcohol is a terrible combination

Customer:

Great, you've answered my questions regarding interval and oil type. I see no type of oil filter on the engine; is there something I should be looking for? I'm draining last years gas now (even though I put Staybil in it.

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and before you ask.

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STABIL does not work in gas with alcohol in it

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Make sure to get the gas out of the carburetor

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make sure to get the gas out of the carburetor before starting it

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then run it a while with fresh gas to clean it out

Customer:

Good to know. I run all gas out of my outboard each year, I'll do that with this machine as well.

Customer:

Thanks.

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