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i have a 14.5 briggs and stratton motor, riding lawnmower.

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i have a 14.5 briggs and stratton motor, riding lawnmower. will not start when cranked with starter..... i have some experience with small motors, 70 years old, farm boy. have checked and cleaned everything.... presently, will start and run when i put gas thru air filter, and will continue to run as long as i continue to trickel gas thru filter. dies when i stop putting in gas.... what should i try next? ... 85 miles to nearest shop. thank you. jim
Submitted: 3 years ago.
Category: Small Engine
Expert:  Hank F. replied 3 years ago.

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This is a classic symptom of a carburetor that has become plugged with varnish.

 

As gas gets old, it turns to varnish and clogs up the passageways inside the carburetor, not allowing enough gas to get to the engine.

This condition is cumulative. Every time gas sits, the varnish builds up just a little more, like coats of paint, until eventually gas can not flow. It will not happen overnight, but the symptoms can show up over night.

The use of fuel additives, such as Sta-Bil or Sea Foam will not stop this process from happening. They will greatly slow it down, but the gas will still go bad.

 

When this happens, either the engine simply will not start, or it will not run without the choke on (this reduces the amount of air getting pulled into the engine, changing the fuel/air mixture), or it will run but surges.

 

Another issue that varnish in the carb can cause is that the varnish may not allow the float needle to seal properly against the seat, causing the flow of gas to not shut off when the bowl is full. The result will be gas overflowing the carb and running into the cylinder, and possibly out the air intake. If the gas gets into the cylinder, it will seep past the rings and down into the crankcase. This will be evidenced by your oil level being over-full and/or the oil smelling like gas.

 

The only 2 solutions are to either replace the carburetor or give it a good, thorough cleaning.

When removing the carb, make sure to take a good picture, or make a good drawing of where all springs and linkages are attached. This will make reassembly much easier.

Most people believe that cleaning a carb involves removing the bowl and wiping it out, then spraying some carb cleaner through it.

This is simply insufficient.

To properly clean the carb, you must remove it, disassemble it (making sure to remove all non-metal parts), and soak it in a commercial solvent for several hours. Soaking it overnight is even better.

Then clean all solvent off with a spray type carb cleaner, making sure to get lots of cleaner into every hole and passage there is. Pay special attention to the tiny holes in the bore of the carb, under the throttle plate for the carbs that have these holes. Use lots of cleaner. And make sure to wear safety goggles to avoid getting the over spray into your eyes. There will be over spray.

Dry the carb with low pressure compressed air.

When reassembling the carb, make sure to use a carb kit, when one is available for your carb.

 

Occasionally, even a good cleaning is not going to be sufficient, and you may end up having to replace the carb anyhow. Be prepared for this.

 

If for some odd reason this does not help, please let me know so I can assist you further.

 

Customer: replied 3 years ago.
i have disassembled carb and cleaned passaged with carb cleaner. further disassembling will require forcing some pieces apart, not just unscrewing them. is that what should be done next?
Expert:  Hank F. replied 3 years ago.

You should never have to force anything apart.

The key to cleaning is to remove what you can, and soaking the carb in a good solvent.

Simply spraying a carb out with an aerosol cleaner is seldom sufficient to clean it.

 

 

Customer: replied 3 years ago.
can i soak the carb body in lacquer thinner?
Expert:  Hank F. replied 3 years ago.

You can try, but I would not recommend it.

Just make sure that all rubber and plastic pieces are removed from the carb first.

Lacquer thinner is extremely strong.

 

 

Customer: replied 3 years ago.
is there a brand of carb cleaner that comes in quart containers, something that you would recommend? i live in northern california
Expert:  Hank F. replied 3 years ago.

I'm not really sure about the quart - I only buy it buy the gallon.

 

A brand I would recommend is NAPA.

You can also go to any auto parts store, which will carry B-12 Chemtool and/or Berryman's, which are both good cleaners, also.

 

Customer: replied 3 years ago.
i will try berryman's, good before. do i have the correct diagnosis?.... gas comes into the float bowl, no problem up to that point. but some passage past the float bowl is plugged, preventing the gas from being drawn up into the carb and atomized and drawn into the motor... when i trickle gas into the air filter, after the motor has started running, this is sucked in and the motor runs. so, a blocked passage is preventing the gas from being drawn up... the motor runs until the poured-in gas is used up. how am i doing for a school teacher?
Expert:  Hank F. replied 3 years ago.

A+ - a very good description of the problem.

 

 

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