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Try separating the wires where the seat safety switch was previously and isolating them. By splicing the wires together, the previous owner would be grounding out the ignition any time the clutch or pto was engaged.
If this solves it, the switch should actually be replaced since it's part of the safety system to prevent accidents.
Now there are 2 wires both green that were twisted together in a wire nut.
So i need to remove them from each other and splice each wire to its ownself or back to each other?
The wires need to be separated and insulated from one another. The seat switch is a normally closed switch that opens when you sit down. In other words, the seat switch is usually "on" through those wires to prevent the engine from starting by grounding out the ignition coil and preventing spark. When you sit in the seat, the switch is "off" to "unground" the ignition coil so that spark can take place.
If the wires are connected to each other, the unit will die anytime the clutch is released or the pto is turned on assuming everything else is properly wired. So get them apart and let's see if it runs for you...
here is a pic of what i did is this correct, if so it did not work.
Btw before it totally dies the mower moves a couple feet.
let me try again
I know the file is 71k
if that dont go thru i dont know what i am doing wrong as the size is correct along with format.
When i go to preview the image it just shows a box
Oops. I owe you a HUGE apology. Pardon me while I wipe the big messy egg off my face. The seat switch works differently on this one than most. This seat switch is normally open and it passes current to energize a relay to ground out the ignition rather than directly grounding through the switch like most do. It also allow the electric clutch to reach ground.
I'm posting a link to a manual that has a schematic on page 35. On this one the operator presence relay is often at fault.
Do you have a meter to test it?
I am not sure what i need or how to test...please be detailed
Do I need to reconnect the wires or??
Let me get detailed testing put together for you. Please give me a moment. Wanted to make sure you had a meter first.
The wires from the seat switch can be put back together. Again, I'm really sorry (and embarrassed) about the incorrect info. Keeps me humble I guess, but I sure don't like inconveniencing you so I really do apologize wholeheartedly.
Hey no problem!!
It was still something I hadn't tried and I was fresh out of ideas...lol
I apperciate any help you can give me.
I dont like sounding like an idiot, but I want to make sure i follow your instructions and advice perfectly thats why i asked for detailed instructions
Here you go...
ok it read( 1) at the at the 1k .
I hooked it back up to the mower and listened for a clicking when turning the key and the only thing i hear clicking is the fuel solenoid.
If you energize the relay, it should click as the plate inside gets moved back and forth by the electromagnet. Since you're not hearing the clicking, I think you successfully troubleshot the problem.
I'm going to have to be offline for a bit (I'm a good little church boy and have bible study tonight), but I'll be back if there are additional questions in about 2 hours. Hopefully that works for you. If not, you can certainly opt me out and continue with another expert because I sure don't want to hold you up.
Best of success!
Can i keep this open until i pick up the relay tomorrow and try it?
I already checked the sears parts and repair store in garland and they has one for 15.00.
I just want to keep you as my repair advisor ...if you dont mind
you too ...Thanks for your help!
Talk with you tomorrow
The relay was the issue...
I pluged in the new one and heard a loud click and it drove....yea!!!!!
CRAP!!! Now I dont have an excuse to not mow the yard...lol
Thanks so much for your advice
I'm so glad you're running again. But you might want to pull it out and unplug it for awhile and do something more fun?
Take care and thank you for the accept! Be blessed in all you do...