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I have a 5.0 hp Honda engine that only runs with the choke

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I have a 5.0 hp Honda engine that only runs with the choke on
Submitted: 5 years ago.
Category: Small Engine
Expert:  PK. replied 5 years ago.

The basic things to do first are to loosen the gas cap, replace the air filter, fuel filter (if it has one), clean out the sediment bowl on the tank petcock (if it has one), replace the spark plug and spray a little carb cleaner in the intake of the carburetor with the engine running. Only spray short bursts of about 1/4 second every thirty or forty seconds.

 

Something else to do is to spray carb cleaner at the intake gaskets and around the outside of the carburetor with the engine running. If there is a change in rpm, then there's probably an air leak at that spot which is leaning out the air/fuel mix.

 

If none of this makes any difference then it's probably going to be time to rebuild the carburetor. You either have an excess of air, through a leak probably, or insufficient fuel flow, either from the tank to the carburetor inlet, from the inlet to the float bowl or from the float bowl to the venturi, or you have insufficient pressure inside the float bowl to allow fuel to be pulled into the venturi.

 

If you do end up rebuilding the carburetor, then you should use a carburetor soak can to clean it. Spray cleaner isn't very effective at getting into the little air circuits and such. You should also replace the old parts with a new carburetor kit and you should replace the fuel lines and filter and clean out the gas tank.

 

Let me know if you have any further questions or if you've already tried some or all of this. Thanks, PK.

Customer: replied 5 years ago.
I have tried all the above previously except rebuilding the carburator. I saw where a previous customer had ask the same question about the same type engine. therefore I though there must be some magic formula. I own a body shop and am mechanical. not a mechanic but this system is very very clean. The engine was running so good. This thing doesn't sputter at all but when i open the choke it is as if i turned off the key.
Expert:  PK. replied 5 years ago.

It only takes a piece of dirt or rubber about half a millimeter across in the wrong place to keep the fuel mixture overly lean. (This is why you should change the fuel lines) If you're careful you can take a fine wire and run it through all the little openings you can find and maybe dislodge something you just can't see. The ethanol blended gas we're stuck with nowadays has really caused a lot of problems with the rubber formulations found in small engines. I think that's a huge part of the problem.

 

One other thing you can do if all else fails is to check out the exhaust. Generally this shouldn't cause your trouble, but too little backpressure could cause a lean condition. I would put my money on the carburetor myself. Just so you know, in my shop we have to replace about a fourth of all 4-cycle carburetors because they just won't come clean. If you know somebody with an ultra-sonic type parts cleaner get them to clean your carb. I've sent carburetors on antique engines to be cleaned this way after soaking them in a tank and not getting them to flow and it absolutely makes a difference. I'm going to order one for my shop in the spring myself.

 

Let me know what you decide to do and what happens. Thanks, PK.

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