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Saab 9000 CS: Saab 9000 1998. After the battery on the car

 
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Saab 9000 1998.
After the battery on the car was without power for about a month - the remote no longer is in contact with the car. Doors do not open and the engine refuse to start.
I believe the remote / car need to be reprogrammed.
How can I fix this - as long as the car refuse to start is a bit difficult to drive it to the workshop for assistance..........
Hoping for a quick reply.
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Aksel/ Norway

 

Country: Norway
Make: Saab
Model: 9000 CS
Year: 1998
Engine: 2,0

Already Tried:
A number of advices on the net - nothing seems to work. I got two remotes and none of them works. And - yes - I have changed the small batteries - twice.

Submitted: 285 days and 21 hours ago.
Category: Saab
Value: kr 118
Status: CLOSED
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Expert:  saabspecialist replied 285 days and 21 hours ago.


saabspecialist :

Hello and thanks for using Just Answer, typically with an older Saab, if the doors were locked with the remote, they must be unlocked with the remote, or else your not going anywhere. Sometimes after replacing the batteries in a remote, you have to hold down the lock button or un-lock button for several seconds before car will recognize remote. Are lights flashing with alarm siren going off? If you were having an anti-theft issue, the alarm should be going off. At any point were battery terminals ever crossed? I would check fuses in under-hood fuse box, and also interior fuse box. A real desperate thing to try is disconnecting the battery, turning the key to the run position and re-connecting the battery. If we're having an anti-theft issue where the alarm is keeping car from starting, the alarm should be going off. All in all, if none of this is any use, you'll need a Saab man with a Tech2 scanner to come to you, or vehicle will have to be towed to him. Good luck, hope this helps, if it does PLEASE hit ACCEPT.

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Expert:  saabspecialist replied 285 days and 18 hours ago.

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Expert:  saabspecialist replied 285 days and 18 hours ago.

Hello and thanks for using Just Answer, typically with an older Saab, if the doors were locked with the remote, they must be unlocked with the remote, or else your not going anywhere. Sometimes after replacing the batteries in a remote, you have to hold down the lock button or un-lock button for several seconds before car will recognize remote. Are lights flashing with alarm siren going off? If you were having an anti-theft issue, the alarm should be going off. At any point were battery terminals ever crossed? I would check fuses in under-hood fuse box, and also interior fuse box. A real desperate thing to try is disconnecting the battery, turning the key to the run position and re-connecting the battery. If we're having an anti-theft issue where the alarm is keeping car from starting, the alarm should be going off. All in all, if none of this is any use, you'll need a Saab man with a Tech2 scanner to come to you, or vehicle will have to be towed to him. Good luck, hope this helps, if it does PLEASE hit ACCEPT.

Customer replied 284 days and 21 hours ago.

Today I have tried out your suggestions. And - yes the car was locked with the remote before the car-battery vent empty. And after the car-battery was again charged, the FOB refused to work and the system is in protected mode. Now,


- I have hold down the button the FOB for several second, even minutes. Don't work.


- The alarm is not going of.


- The battery terminals has never been crossed


- Fuse for the interior light and the system has been replaced several times.


- The suggest disconnection of the car-battery etc has been tried out - no result.


 


What else may I try?


(Your suggestion of take the car to the dealer was my decision before I contacted you, so fare with disappointing result)

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Expert:  saabspecialist replied 284 days and 16 hours ago.

If the alarm is NOT going off, then the alarm computer is NOT keeping car from starting. When you try to start car does engine crank? The no start and inoperable remotes may be un-related.

Customer replied 283 days and 11 hours ago.

the engine starts but die after a few sec

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Expert:  saabspecialist replied 283 days and 9 hours ago.

Hello again, if the engine starts but dies after a few seconds, it's seeming even MORE unlikely an anti-theft issue. I would be curious what we're loosing, fuel? Spark? Injector Pulse? Maybe try spraying a combustible aerosol(brake clean/carb clean) into a vacuum hose off the intake and see if car will continue to run longer. If this is the case, your loosing fuel. You can disconnect fuel line from the rail and crank away and see if your getting good fuel flow(let it drain into a pan). If your not, I would pull up trunk liner(couple of torx screws), then remove fuel pump cover(couple allan screws) and see if your getting good power and ground to fuel pump(the heavier guage wires, I believe black and green). If your getting power and ground while cranking away, and no fuel at rail, you have a bad fuel pump. Investigate these things and let me know what you find. Good luck, hope this helps, if it does PLEASE hit ACCEPT.

Customer replied 282 days and 16 hours ago.

When trying to start, the engine fire and then die.


The small indicator-lamp on the left side of the dash gives to short signals a second.


Both - in my experience and from the literature, indicates that the immobilizer is on.


As I see it - the remote controller is not able to communicate with the protection system. The remote controllers - neither of them, I got two - are can not open og close the doors, there I have to use the car-key.


The problem is not with the gas-supply! Nor the ignition!

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Expert:  Walt-mod replied 280 days and 22 hours ago.

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Customer replied 280 days and 19 hours ago.

Yes - I would like to be contacted by another professional.


I still have the problem with this car - it will not start.

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Expert:  jeffrey590 replied 280 days and 8 hours ago.

Greetings JACUSTOMER, if the vehicle starts and dies then the alarm is NOT the cause of this problem...The alarm/immobilizer as you call it will prohibit cranking if it is active...Sounds like a problem with fuel delivery being interrupted...As far as the remotes being inoperative, this sounds like an alarm module/ref signal problem...So there are most definitely two different issues going on...I would start with the antitheft module replacement and take it from there...If I can assist further or answer any other questions please let me know...jeffrey590

Customer replied 279 days and 22 hours ago.

Hi Jeffrey -


I disagree - there is nothing wrong with the fuel-supply.


The small pilot lamp that shows the status of the security system do indicate twice a second, which indicate that the immobilizer is in function. The Fob is neither able to open the door, nor disable the immobilizer. I think that is the real problem, connection between the car and the Fob.


 


Before you will send me a reply I strongly advice you to read all the correspondence on this matter!


 


Regds

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Expert:  jeffrey590 replied 279 days and 7 hours ago.

Hello Again JACUSTOMER, I will also opt out of this question since you have decided that you know what is wrong with the vehicle...Good luck in your efforts to repair it...jeffrey590

 
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