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Econoline e3500 coachman motor home: I am trying to help a

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I am trying to help a friend get their 1984 ford motor home running. It is built on the Econoline chassis E3500. Has a 460 in it. It sat for two yrs. At first I was able to get it to crank but no start or even a pop. I diagnosed that it had no spark from coil nor any fuel. I found the control module connections were corroded and wire coverings to be crumbling so replaced control module and coil since it was cheap any ways. Replaced plugs wires cap and rotor. Now it got spark to the plugs but no fuel. Found fuel relay corroded so replaced them still no fuel. Found that someone bypassed them any way. Found loose wire underneath the chassis coming from fuel tank applied power and now get fuel to carb. Now this part baffles me. I now can get it to run as long as I hold the ignition switch in the start position, and I mean starter engaged. But as soon as I release key to run position it dies. So I thought that it was ignition switch was bad so relace that and still same thing. Now what.
Submitted: 1 year ago.
Category: RV
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
Hi I'm Wayne
I will help you with this
You are a good wrench, tracing and repairing all them problems,
what you need to check next is the power at the
(+) of coil, if it looses power when key to on position
then that wire is broken some place in the harness
run a temp jumper wire from power source to (+) on the coil
it should stay running
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Okay thank you. sorry it took so long to respond i will be working on it again tomorrow mornning around noon. I will let you know if it worked.
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
Morning
OK let me know
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Okay tried that no luck same thing. I ran a wire from pos batt to pos side of coil it will run in the start but not the run position.(###) ###-####
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
Hi
Thank you for that
This is strange
does it have the ign computer box on it
on cars it was mounted on the inner fender
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
yes it does and i replaced that also
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
Thank you for that
This is a stumpier, to say the least
how about a resistor , is there a ign resistor
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Possibly if there is where would it be located
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
Follow the + coil wire
it hooks to that
Wayne
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Okay if there is one should i just replace it or can i test it
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
Hi I just found this wire diagram for a 1984
E 350 460 engine
look at the right side there is a relay that goes to ign switch
3 terminals , this may be the problem
http://news.prestolite.com/drupaldocs/Q066095375.pdf
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Right side looking at the engine.
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
There is a silver relay on drivers side with three terminals but it clicks when i turn the key on
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
did you look at the wire diagram
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Yes just looked at it
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I am not at the motorhome right now im at a McDonalds so i can use the internet when i leave here i will only have my phone can you call me
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
Can you find that relay
should click in and hold in when key to on position
I can only call you if JA allows , but they charge a extra $56.00
on top of question value
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
okay so i will go back to vehicle and check these things and let you know later this afternoon.
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
OK That is fine,
Grand kids just come over
so I will be on-and off
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
the relay energizes and holds when the ignition switch is in the run possition it is also where the second batt hooks up to. it clicks if the second batt is hooked up or not
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
HI
Sorry for delay, like I mentioned Grand kids over 6 out of 8
I suggest to replace it,
I think this is problem
Wayne
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
okay i will replace it today and let you know.
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
OK,
Thank you
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Replaced it and no help next ideal.
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
I was sitting back and thinking about this
You replaced all things that would cause it
plus the items I suggested
look around and see if it has a low oil pressure switch
it would be near the oil filters
Being a 1984, I doubt it , but worth a check
Wayne
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
it does and is located at the oil presure switch i grounded it and still nothing.
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
Hi
It works the opposite
ground kills the engine
it is a NC, when see oil pressure it opens
Wayne
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
so i just want to unplug it. If i hold the ignition in start possition it starts and oil gauge shows preasure. As soon as i let go it dies.
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
Hi ***** is not it either
I still don't understand why it does not run
when you put battery voltage to + on coil
does it have fuel shut off solenoid on carb,
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
no
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
OK Thank you for that
I have to cook diner now for family.
I will be back on soon and think this over
Wayne
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
ok
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
Ok
I am back
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
I think i am going to remove all the ignition system components, check all connections and wires and re install. I will just bypass or disable any of the extra components other than the necessary ones. What do you think.
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
Hey
Great Idea,
There is some thing here, we are missing
but I do not no what
I wish I could be there with you
between the 2 of us , we would find the cause
Wayne
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
me to buddy.
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
Hey
If I come up with something, I will drop a note
you and I have spent a lot of time on this ,
and still spinning our wheels
Wayne
Customer: replied 1 year ago.
Yes, well thank you for your help.
Expert:  Wayne replied 1 year ago.
you are welcome ,
We tried,
if I think of something I wil get back to you
also if you find something , let me know
Wayne