I had to respond to what you have said about our bodies always reflecting whsts going on inside, even if just subtly. Having chronic pain, I know certain astute people, and particularly others who have pain can sense my suffering. On a bad day, everyone can sense my suffering. My son is astute in picking up on my physical suffering, and knows when Im hurting even when I dont admit it.
Absolutely, I do agree with you. It is also pain what many times pushes us to work even more on ourselves, on becoming wiser, stronger, more humane, developing more resiliency and empathy, since we know how it feels, how hard things could get.
Wow, very wise indeed. I could t have said it better myself. Its very true.
Many people do not take these challenges and allow pain to turn into distorted suffering, and when that happens, everything get complicated and destructive. I am glad to know you have wisely approached these tough challenges and pain, in ways you could gradually heal and better cope from inside.
Interesting. Two examples come to my mind. A close frie d of mine who also suffers, but has an illness and her coping style is martyr like. Illness has become her focus and identity. The second is my father who for some reason is an alcoholic
Gradually heal and cope from the inside youve said. This means starting from the inside out.
Chronic physical conditions, specially those causing a lot of pain could be very overwhelming, and that's why we need to be extra unconditionally patient, understanding, gentle, compassionate, loving and supportive with ourselves, specially when undergoing more pain. This way we would not increase the pain, but better cope with it in better, more effective ways.
How dramatically we could change the way pain and life impact us depending on the way we approach it.
We are literally shaping our own mind and body, feelings and emotions through the way we mentally and emotionally approach them, and the way we direct our bodies to respond or react to it. From tenderness tp a caring touch, from ourselves or a genuine person, we do literally change functions, tissues, cells and genes. Our awareness of ourselves and reality change, and our bodies change as a consequences too. It's a real biofeedback process.
Yes, and studies provecthis mind body connection is very real. Just think how certain neurons can fire based on our thoughts
I am trying to be more careful or focus on self care, because y husband devalues. That's why self care is crutial
I use to say that pain is in our minds and not in our physical bodies, this is why a person when sleeping or unconscious cannot experience pain. If our awareness or physical reality is not there, there is no experience, no perception, no sensations. If we learn to become more mindful, and more in control of some of this endless potential we all have, things, including pain would be much different.
Right, then take those sad and painful behaviors as reminders for you to love and support yourself even more and better, not to take the hurting that he projects, but to treasure what is healthy and meaningful, worthy and fulfilling, helpful and dignifying.
That seems true with most emotional pain. Although pain can wake me up at night. If you dont listen to the pain sensations, and pace yourself, you can cause further harm to the body. That's why I use meditation to take the edge off physical pain and allow some sense of control
It's shocking the fact that we are not taught about key aspects or reality, about this body-heart-mind-spirit connection, inter dependency, because if were aware of it and assertive to take consistent action to take good care of ourselves, life would be perceived and experienced in very different ways, including the experience of pain.
Sorry, connection problem. Okay, I see. Its how you choose to handle emotional pain. When it hurts, dig inside deeper in a sense to nurture and heal, rather than other destructive ways of coping
Right! your body is wise, it knows better than your intellectual mind or conscious feeling-emotions what is going on inside yourself, not only physically but also mentally, emotionally and spiritually, because it is the material and energetic container of what us dense and subtle too, tough to fool our physical bodies, while so easy to mislead our intellectual mind and emotions.
Yes,,,, I agree, it should be common knowledge, because it can empower
Physical pain is very real, you know that very well, and it is also true that the way you experience it depend on how you happen to experience reality in your mind and heart, this is why we could help ourselves to better cope, control and promote pain relief through wiser, healthier use experience of our mind-heart-spirit
Pain management program teach some of these principles, what could be very helpful, as well as mindfulness practices, meditation and other therapeutic ways to work on ourselves.
That was the basic premise of lie detector tests, although some ambiguity surrouns that issue. The issue that our bodies dont lie. Tnanks for all your time tonight. Your writing and insight is fluent and refreshing
Stress, emotions, mental states, expectations, fears, mood, attitudes, values and beliefs, and many other things do shape our experience of pain and how well we cope with it. Let's keep working on learning from this process with a gentle, compassionate and consistent approach.
Thank you for your presence, insight and sensitivity. I feel grateful. Good night.
Amen. I will try, I promise !! True and important words you have spoke!
The stress of this marriage has made coping with my illness difficult. That is why I know how important these words are, the effect of stress on illness is profound
I look forward to talking about it with you in the future. It is not many therapist who understand these dynamics. Therefore, I will catch up with you again. Thanks a million. I hope you have a good night