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What would cause my 11 year old cockatiel to suddenly begin making a constant squeaking sound? I just had her wings and nails
clipped two days prior to this beginning. She is perfectly normal in her daily behavior, eating, and sleeping. She very rarely makes this
noise as she sleeps.

Submitted: 956 days and 8 hours ago.
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Age: 11; Female; Breed: Cockatiel

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Vitamin supplements and antibiotics from vet

Posted by Patricia 956 days and 8 hours ago.

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Hello. Can you tell me first, why the vet prescribed any antibiotics? Was there some tests run that showed a need for it? If so, what kind of tests and what were the results? Is it an oral medication that you give her by dropper or is it something you were told to put in her water? What type of vitamin supplement? I'm trying to get to the bottom of why the vet suggested either one as it may be relevant to her behavior. Was it the vet who did the feather and nail trim for you? Was there any bleeding from either or both? Can she still fly and glide since the feather trim, just not as far or can she not fly at all now? This extra information and anything else you can think to add will help me give you my best advice. Thanks. Patricia

956 days and 8 hours ago.

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The vet was unsure whether she may have an infection or something possibly stuck in her throat. She didn't want to do any tests at the time because she was afraid she might pass away.
I am giving her: AviX Booster, Baytril, and
Vetri-Dmg Suspension all by eye dropper. I had
her nails and wings clipped at a bird specialty store, and one nail did bleed for a short time.
She cannot fly at all - just plops to the floor.
She doesn't seem to make this sound when she sleeps. She did have a problem with plucking at
the feathers on the left side of her chest and under her left wing but has not done so since the
noise has started. She sometimes lets out a louder squawk. She squeaks much louder when
she eats also. Thank you.

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Okay, thanks for the extra information. It's very helpful. I'm going to stick my neck out here but it does not sound like you are working with a true Avian vet, or even one that has a lot of experience with birds. And that store may call themselves a specialty bird store but who ever trimmed her wings did not know squat about how to do it properly. I'll get to that in a moment. The very first thing the vet should have done would have been to wait for her to do a dropping and tested it. That obviously causes no stress to the bird at all and many problems can be detected from just one sample. She also should not have put her on any antibiotics unless she was sure there was a reason. Birds do not handle antibiotics well and they can quickly develop an immunity to them, making them useless if and when they do really have to have them. She also should have discussed the use of a probiotic at the same time. Even when a bird really does need antibiotics, it will wreak havoc on their system. They do not discrimminate. They kill all bacteria in the body, including the beneficial gut flora that we all need to keep our digestive tracts working properly. Without replacing that beneficial bacteria, she will develop a raging yeast infection and stands to end up sicker from that than from whatever started the problem. The type of plucking you describe is one symptom of either a bacterial or a fungal issue, one of which can be Giardia. That can be a tough one to cure. I have been fighting it with one of my Tiels, for about 2 years. It come and goes and we have not been able to get it totally whipped yet. Again, bacterial or fungal, a good vet can pick up on it right away, only from that sample dropping. A yeast infection may be diagnosed from a dropping but more than likely to be sure, it will take a throat swab. I am going to strongly urge you to try to find another vet before you possibly waste any more money and any more of your bird's time being ill. I'm going to give you several links to hopefully assist with that. If it should turn out that you really are dealing with an Avian vet, then I'd like for you to take all this information I'm giving you and have a real heart to heart talk with her and question her at length about all of it. Now about the wing trim. The purpose of a wing trim is not to stop the bird from flying. It is only to stop the bird from gaining altitude. A bird with properly trimmed flights will be able to fly/glide for about 15-20 feet, gradually losing altitude and will be able to execute a perfect landing, in complete control. Because your bird cannot do this, she has been grossly over clipped and is at high risk of serious injury until those flights are replaced. That could take months. In the meantime you are not going to be able to allow her out and to make attempts to fly. When Tiels land, they land tail first. Since she cannot control herself and she is falling, she is very much at risk of splitting the skin open near her vent. That is an all too common injury for Tiels. They all too fast, those stiff tail feathers hit first and that tender skin splits open. One of my tiels had been over clipped by the person I got him from and this happend to him. I was very close to my vet, had him in her hands within 15 minutes and we still nearly lost him from blood loss. He needed stitches to repair the tear and he needed IV fluids to replace the blood loss. I now joke about him and call him my $70 bird with a $400 backside. But I assure you, there was nothing funny about it at the time. Overclipping is a very dangerous situation. Another injury that can happen is if she gets out of control and should hit or fall on her keel bone, she can break it or she can cut her chest open from the inside. Those little keel bones are pretty sharp. In addition to the links to help locate a vet, I'm going to give you a lot more about basic Tiel care, diet, and other safety issues that I hope will help you out. I'm sorry that even with all this information, I cannot diagnose nor prescribe for your bird. The squeaking does concern me as it may be the result of an injury or it may be a growing respiratory issue. In any case, she really needs to see a very competent vet, sooner rather than later. I hope I have been able to help you some and if you have any more questions at all, don't hesitate to ask. Best of luck with that poor little girl. I hope you will be able to find her the compentent, knowledgeable help she needs. Patricia

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