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i prepared form 706 for 3 beneficiaries. An irrevocable trust was set up by the mother.
She passes away sept 12 , 2005

Home was sold for 955,000

3 checks were dispersed for 313,333

The checks have the word trustee after each bebficiary name

The Bank manager says he need and id number

can u please advise

Submitted: 1218 days and 1 hours ago.
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Posted by RD 1218 days and 1 hours ago.

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Do you have the EIN# of the irrevocable trust? Why do you have the check issued to the beneficiaries as trustee?

Form 706 is estate tax return filed for the deceased mother. If the trust was irrevocable and named 3 beneficiairies than this would not be part of the estate.

 

Renu V39041.6057980324

1218 days and 1 hours ago.

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NO EIN FOR THE IRREVOCABLE TRUST

IS FILING 706 WRONG

IF YES HOW DO I CORRECT THIS SITUATION

THE ATTORNEYS AT THE CLOSING WROTE THE THREE CHECKS IN THEIE NAMES AND HAVE A COMMA AND THE WORD TRUSTEE WRITTEN AFTER THIER NAMES

PLEASE ADVISE


THE BANK DOESNT ACCEPT THE CHECKS FROM THEM SINCE THEY HAVE NO EIN FOR THE TRUST

Posted by RD 1218 days and 1 hours ago.

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Did the mother's will state that these amounts should be distributed to the heirs or to the trust for the benefit of the heirs?

You will have to provide detailed information regarding the estate distribution for me to address this situation better...

1218 days ago.

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IT WAS A REVOCABLE TRUST NOT AN IRREVOCABLE ONE

MY MISTAKE

1218 days ago.

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PLEASE ADVISE

Posted by RD 1218 days ago.

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You might want to check with the Attorney...the checks should have been issued in the name of the beneficiaries - not as trustee..Unless...the decedent wanted the money to be distributed to the trust formed for the benefit of the heirs...in ehich case you will have to form the trusts and deposit the checks in the trust accounts.

Form 706 is filed with the IRS - estate tax return and it is filed for the decedent's estate.

Let me know if you have any question. Bonus and Feedback will be highly appreciated!!!

 

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1217 days and 23 hours ago.

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I ALSO WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE CHECKS WERE MADE OUT WRONG.

ISNT IT TRUE THAT A REVOCABLE TRUST SIMPLIFIES THE WAY IN WHICH PAYMENTS OR ASSETS CAN BE DSITRIBUTED TO THE BENEFICIARIES.

AFTER SPEAKING TO ALL 3 BENEFICIARIES I WAS TOLD MOM WANTED THEM TO SHARE EVERYTHING EQUALLY AND THE 706 REFLECTED THAT.

IF THE CHEKCS WERE MADE OUT ERRONEOUSLY WHAT CAN WE DO TO STRAIGHTEN THIS OUT SO THAT THE BENEFICIARIES CAN JUST DEPOSIT THESE CHECKS IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL ACCOUNT.

PLEASE ADVISE, THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP.

1217 days and 22 hours ago.

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PLEASE ADVISE ABOVE QUESTIONS.

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I would suggest you to talk to the Attorney handling the estate and ask him to reissue the check in personal names.

If the Attorney has some grounds for issuing the checks in the name as trustees than I would like to know that before I can suggest something else.

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1217 days and 22 hours ago.

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I HAD JUST SPOKE TO THE ATTORNEY AND HE TOLD ME THAT THE BANK WOULDNT BE WILLING TO CANCEL AND RESISSUE THOSE CHECKS. HE ALSO TOLD ME THAT THE HOUSE WHICH WAS HELD IN THE REVOCABLE TRUST HAD LANGUAGE THAT SAID THAT THE PROCEEDS WOULD GO TO THE 3 "TRUSTEES" . SO THE BANK'S ATTORNEY WAS CONFUSED AT THE CLOSING AND THEY COULDNT ASK ANY ONE FOR ASSISTANCE SO THEY MADE THE CHECKS WITH THE WORDS "AS TRUSTEE" AFTER THE 3 INDIVIDUAL'S NAMES.

KINDLY LET ME KNOW IF THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO
REISSUE OR DEPOSIT THESE CHECKS?

THANKS SO MUCH.

1217 days and 21 hours ago.

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I hope you can help me .

Posted by RD 1217 days and 20 hours ago.

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I would suggest you to meet with the Attorney to understand why this was done.

It is possible that you may be able to deposit the check in the revocable trust and than write checks to the three heirs from the revocable trust.

Alternatively, each of the heirs can form their own revocable trust and deposit the check in their own revocable trust.

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1217 days and 20 hours ago.

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KINDLY LET ME KNOW WHAT IS INVOLVED IN FORMING A REVOCABLE TRUST. FILL OUT FORM SS4 GET AN ID NUMBER.

IS THERE A TAX FROM TO FILL OUT AS WELL AT THE END OF THE YEAR?

HOW DO WE CLOSE THESE 3 TRUSTS?

OR IS IT JUST GETTING AN ID NUMBER AND PRESENTING THE ID NUMBER AT THE BANK TO OPEN AN ACCOUNT (REVOCABLE TRUST ACCOUNT)?

Posted by RD 1217 days and 19 hours ago.

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For your purposes, you can apply for a EIN number as a trust (form it as a revocable trust) so you do not have to file a separate tax return. Please check with a local attorney to determine the trust formation requirements for your State.

Since this will be a revocable trust, there is no separate filing required..

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1217 days and 15 hours ago.

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Do these trusts have to be closed at the end of the year ?

On the form ss4 am i forming the trust just for banking purposes?

thanks for all your help

1217 days and 8 hours ago.

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PLEASE ADVISE ON ABOVE QUESTIONS

1217 days and 7 hours ago.

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Please

Posted by RD 1217 days and 6 hours ago.

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You do not have to close the trust. Since they are revocable and you do not have separate filing requirements, the trust can continue. The income etc from the revocable trust is reported under the grantor(the person who is the owner(in layman terms)of the trust).

On the form SS-4 you can form trust to hold assets for the grantor.

Let me know if you have any question. Bonus and Feedback will be highly appreciated!!!

 

XXXX@XXXXXXX.XXX

 

Please note: This advice is provided with the understanding that all the relevant facts have been provided by you. Any change in facts might affect the advice given and hence may not be relied on in such cases.

 

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