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Sent to General Experts July 16 2006 at 5:33 PM
   

I just had an eBay autobid failure that I don't understand. The auction closed at my full bid rather than the second highest plus the increment as expected. Here is the bid list:
User ID               Bid Amount      Date of bid
crouching_geezer ( 205) US $60.00 Jul-16-06 14:30:16 PDT
bobcat-baby ( 50)             US $40.00 Jul-12-06 18:58:34 PDT
bobcat-baby ( 50)             US $35.00 Jul-12-06 18:58:21 PDT
bobcat-baby ( 50)             US $30.00 Jul-12-06 18:58:06 PDT
bobcat-baby ( 50)             US $20.00 Jul-12-06 18:57:45 PDT
The auction id is XXXXXXXXXXX7. I used hammersnipe bidding 7 seconds prior to the end that has always worked w/no problem in the past.

Customer (name blocked for privacy)
Status:  Closed   Value: $15
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July 16 2006 at 5:45 PM (11 minutes and 54 seconds later)
         
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I believe there are other snipe programs, one being "esnipe" which puts bids in at the time one specifies. If someone bid the same high bid as yours and put the snipe to bid before your 7 seconds one, like at 8 or more seconds before auction end, the person who places their bid first gets the win, even if the amounts are the same.

Let me know if there's any further questions about this. Please press the "ACCEPT" if you are satisfied with this answer. "Reply"
if you need further explanation. Bonuses are always welcome too! PS - I am an ebay seller also.


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July 16 2006 at 6:40 PM (54 minutes and 36 seconds later)
         
Reply to B. Shapiro's Post: Hi Barbara,

I can't verify that you understood my issue. I'm not concerned because I lost - I won. The problem was that the autobid did not operate as expected.

Taking your example and applying to my facts: What if another bid is what caused the maximum amount to be billed rather than the 2nd high plus the increment amount that's conventional.

The way that would work is that there was another bid that was either equal to or exactly one increment lower than mine and it arrived AFTER mine did having the effect of triggering my exact full bid amount - but it was not displayed.

That is not satisfying because one must accept assertions of an (A) undocumented and (B) unexpected behavior.

(A) So far as I know, there's no place that eBay discusses which valid bids are or are not displayed.

(B) If eBay doesn’t include their bid in the list, how could the person making the assumed coincidental bid validate that it had been received and if it was the same amount, rejected based on the timestamp?

Sorry, I'm no closer to understanding what happened. Thanks for trying!!

Can you toss this one back?

Cheers,
**Jeff**
Customer (name blocked for privacy)
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July 16 2006 at 6:48 PM (8 minutes and 16 seconds later)
         
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hi Jeff,

when you placed a bid, what kind of confirmation you got?



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July 16 2006 at 7:01 PM (12 minutes and 44 seconds later)
         
Reply to Lev's Post: email from eBay, auction results from eBay and the seller, results from hammersnipe

Why do you ask?
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July 16 2006 at 7:06 PM (5 minutes and 44 seconds later)
         
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Does the confirmation mention an amount and type of bid? Did you get any outbid or retract confirmatons?

I am thinking to get some tips leading to the problem.



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July 16 2006 at 7:12 PM (5 minutes and 50 seconds later)
         

Hi Customer (name blocked for privacy). Thank you for asking your question on Just Answer. The other experts and I are working on your answer. By the way, it would help us to know:


-Was this "Dutch" auction?

Thank you again for trusting us with your problem. Please reply as soon as possible so that we can finish answering your question.

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July 16 2006 at 7:19 PM (6 minutes and 55 seconds later)
         
Reply to Lev's Post: Thanks, that worked! My bid was the minimum winning amount based on the previous bidder's previously undisclosed max. I'm off to approve the fee.

Cheers,
**Jeff**
Customer (name blocked for privacy)
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July 17 2006 at 11:43 AM (16 hours and 24 minutes and 12 seconds later)
         

Jeff,

I glad to know that you solved the problem. Regards. Lev



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