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I have a female black lab that has been treated several times for fleas, she is still constantly itching herself nonstop, i see no signs of fleas

Submitted: 15 days and 16 hours ago.
Category: Dog
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Pet's Sex: Female
Pet's Age: >12

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ive done an extensive brushing of her and still the same behavior

Posted by SoCalPetDoc 15 days and 16 hours ago.

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A couple of questions for you;

1) What "treatments" has your dog received for the itch?

2) Has your dog had itchy skin in the past or is this the first time she's had skin problems?

3) Have fleas been seen on her in the last 2-3 months?

4) Where is she itching and how intense is it (scale of 1-10 w/ 10 being the itchiest you can imagine)?

 

SoCalPetDoc

 

15 days and 16 hours ago.

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so far i have not used any treatments for the itching, started with a flea and tick control,got worse then i did a flea shampoo much improvement then i showed some moderate signs of fleas again and i used a spray on treatment, but now she itches profusely kept me up all night and dont see any signs of fleas

Posted by SoCalPetDoc 15 days and 16 hours ago.

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Am I understanding you properly?

1) You HAVE seen fleas on within the past 1-2 months.

2) Besides attempts at flea control, you have not corrected the itch outside of some immediate relief seen with a recent shampoo.

3) The itch is VERY intense.

 

I think we're getting closer.

Has she ever had problems with her skin in the past or been diagnosed with flea bite allergy by a vet?

Were is she itching and are there any sores, scabs, or hair loss?

What flea control products have you tried (names would be nice)?

 

SoCalPetDoc

15 days and 15 hours ago.

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not for sure of the skin probs i rescued her from very grim living conditions in the past, ive had her for two years now had her groomed and had a physical after rescue and her shots and has been no problems whatso ever i shampoo her every other month but for some reason broke out with fleas, she shows no signs of scabs or hair loss, ive used the frontline flea and tic control, Hartz shampoo, and the harts spray gaurd. She is not a outdoor dog now, goes to the bathroom and right back in. Last nite was the worst of her condition, she seems calmer now after the brushing, but i think she is just exhausted.

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Then let's assume the problem is flea related for now.

First, the flea life cycle is approx. 3 months long, so effective flea control must be used for at least that much time. If you are using frontline (a great product) then you must apply it without question at least every 4 weeks (sometimes every 3 weeks is better) for the next 3-4 months to help rid the house and immediate property of a flea infestation. You must also make sure that every dog and cat in the home is being treated (even if the cat doesn't go outside).

Second, many dogs and cats have allergies to the flea bite itself which can cause an intense itch long after the fleas are no longer present. The itch usually involves the inner thighs, around the neck, at the lower back, and under the groin or around the anus. Sometimes, little pinpoint sores may be seen in these areas.

Third, you don't have to see fleas for them to be a problem. For every flea you see, there are usually 10 you don't and even a few sporadic flea bites can elicit an intense itch. So if fleas have been seen within the last 1-2 months, assume they are still around and be patient and religious with your flea control use.

Fourth, other causes of itching can mimic flea related causes and can include allergies to weeds, pollens, certain fabrics, etc. but I would have expected a history of itch within the previous 2 years of ownership. Mange or other skin parasites are also a possibility, especially if she has been in contact with younger dogs lately or visited parks where other dogs frequent. A vet exam is often needed to determine this.

 

Now what you can try at home.

Over-the-counter Benedryl (Diphenhydramine HCl) is a safe antihistamine that can be used for dogs. The dose is 1 mg per pound of weight, so an average 50 lb dog could have 50 mg of Benedryl and a 75 lb dog could have 75 mg of Benedryl. Since most Benedryl comes in 25 mg strength, you would have to give 2 up to 3 capsules at a time up to twice a day. The only side effects that I see is some drowsiness and this is usually at the higher dose range. Some dogs can be allergic to any drug so any adverse effects that worry you should be addressed immediately but this is very rare. Continue with the bathing but use a hypoallergenic shampoo or even an oatmeal based shampoo designed for sensitive skin found at your petstore. Avoid flea shampoo at this time if you are using frontline since you will simply dry out the skin and increase the itch.

You can use cortisone sprays found at your petstore or at the drug store for areas that seem the most intense but do not spray the whole dog or soak the dog in cortisone spray.

If these hints don't help, the next step is likely an exam so the vet can determine if antibiotics or if specific skin testing is necessary. The vet may also take advantage of injectable cortisone for greater effect of various itch intensities but only after your dog is deemed healthy enough to tolerate cortisone therapy if recommended.

 

Hope this helps,

SoCalPetDoc

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15 days and 15 hours ago.

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thanks for the info, glad i asked i was goin to do another flea bath i will give her mild shampoo and do some benedryl, she dfinitely seemed she was having some sort of reactions after treatments thankyou

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